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High Outflow Warning/Sault Rapids

August 2 they will be increasing Lake Superior outflows for the month of August. They are currently talking 4 to 5 gates open. Gate 1 will remain at it's half gate current level. This is inside the fish retention wall (berm). Just thought anyone coming up should be aware of this.

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Thanks for the heads-up DD. So it sounds like it getting to the wall will be OK, but heavy flows and no wading beyond that?

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Appreciate the heads up.. good info to have.

Any idea why?

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With 4 or 5 full gates open beyond the berm, the flows will be possibly as much as 10X the "normal" flow rate. Wading beyond the berm under such conditions is out of the question. Even walking on the berm itself can be dangerous ... as it is possible that water will push over the berm in places

Levels "inside " the berm will not be affected, and fishing will continue to be safe, however fishing pressure will likely increase quite a bit in this section.

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I think it is also likely to happen on Aug 1st (not 2nd)..... Thursday.

Please don't wade out into the rapids on thursday morning...
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This will dramatically affect the visiting anglers to the rapids...I for one wouldn't make the 8 hour trek.

I'm sure there's very good reasons, but the town will miss out on some tourist dollars.
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This will dramatically affect the visiting anglers to the rapids...I for one wouldn't make the 8 hour trek.

I'm sure there's very good reasons, but the town will miss out on some tourist dollars.
Yup, I'm out now. Was looking forward to it too...
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This will dramatically affect the visiting anglers to the rapids...I for one wouldn't make the 8 hour trek.

I'm sure there's very good reasons, but the town will miss out on some tourist dollars.
From the mandate of the International lake Superior Board of Control:

"Since 1978, the Commission has issued several supplements to the original Order of Approval. As a result, the Order now specifies that the level of Lakes Michigan and Huron must also be considered when determining the outflow from Lake Superior. In addition, the Order addresses concerns for the fishery in the rapids.

Various regulation plans have been developed and used to determine Lake Superior outflows. Each of these plans has adhered to the operating conditions contained in the Commissionís Order. The main objective of the present regulation plan is to determining a flow that will bring the levels of Lake Superior and Lakes Michigan and Huron to nearly the same relative position within their respective ranges of actual historic levels. At the same time, the plan tries to prevent the level of Lake Superior from rising above or falling below certain water levels specified in the Order. "


I assume that the seriously low water levels in Lake Huron /Georgian Bay are being addressed given that Lake Superior's level is up somewhat and major Lake Superior tributaries (Nipigon) have been very high this year....
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This will dramatically affect the visiting anglers to the rapids...I for one wouldn't make the 8 hour trek.
True, but boy would I want to be there the day after water levels drop!!

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Perfect. I plan on getting there Saturday. It's always something.
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When I first started fishing there you didn't wade beyond the berm in very many places. Due high flows there were no bermside little islands with grass, greens, & small trees. Arriving for the first time of the season one year found things very changed.. you could wade all kinds of new places, cast & cover new pools. It seemed foreign but very nice. Nothing stays the same I guess.. Somehow I knew the busy beavers would be behind this.

One hole that should be plugged: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-58094902.html

"Great Lakes Losing 2.5 Billion Gallons Per Day Due to Manmade Drain Hole Near Detroit
New Research Finds St. Clair River Draining Water from Lakes Huron and Michigan at Triple Rate Originally Thought"

"The new GBA research uses water level data from the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Association's Great Lakes Environmental Research Lab that
extends through February 2007--data that was not available when the
original Baird Report was released. According to the original 2005 Baird
Report, the rapid water loss is due to a number of factors, with bottom
erosion of the St. Clair River being the major factor. Much of this erosion
is a consequence of navigation dredging conducted by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers that took place in the river during the 1960s. The Corps designed
structures to remediate anticipated adverse impacts of this dredging at
that time, but the project was never completed"
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Had made the plans to fish the rapids over the August long weekend.
The plans were in the making for a long time, so I didn't want to cancel.

We went, and as others have mentioned, the water is high. One can really only wade in a few sections. Canadian side of the berm is OK until you get below the second observation deck. At that point the berm disappears and the river becomes one raging flow. So if one plans to go during the month of August be prepared to work a small amount of water that will be pressured.
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We went, and as others have mentioned, the water is high.
Any success?
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This was the first year of good success. Years past we would get into single digits (2-3 rods) over the course of our trip.

This year however, we went two weeks later than normal. We made a bit of a sacrifice. The earlier you go the hotter the fish are, the later you go, the more fish, but aren't as aggressive. None the less, we had a great time with a few fish that were landed and lost that looked to be breaking in to the double digits.


However, as mentioned the water is super high, so the waters to fish were limited.

Like many here, the journey getting to and from the destination is almost just as fun, and this year it rang true.

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News is the outflow for September will be reduced from current 6 open gates down to 4 open gates on September 3rd.

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