A different Alaska bound question - Spey Pages
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-05-2013, 11:00 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: N.Cal
Posts: 1,001
A different Alaska bound question

Yep another Alaska bound question here. This one is a tad off the norm I think:

Here's the situation, I'll be fishing the KP the last two weeks of August with my Dad (fishing for silvers primarily). His physical condition is very poor, in fact we had canceled our trip and he had pretty much thought his fishing days were over completely due to severe back pain. At any rate, at this point things are looking up (it's all relative isn't it) and he's super excited to go, as am I. His mobility will still be very limited, so we will be fishing pretty much the flat ground easy access stuff, wading in slower water up to shin deep (with assistance) will probably be ok but not much more.

Since we've both fished some of these streams before I have a decent idea of what to expect, and I'm thinking we will be covering most of our situations with single hand fly rods. Of course I'm kind of itching to bring along a 2hander and do some spey casting and swing some flies too. I know that a lot of these easy access spots will not be the most conducive to spey casting at times, though I am hopeful to take off for a half day or so once or twice on the trip to explore a tad bit on my own and sample some other waters.

I'm curious as to what kinds of line setups might be most useful, and any words of advice about swinging around these parts would be greatly appreciated. I had been thinking of probably just taking a switch rod with a scandi head and add a long mono leader for the most part, but I could bring along a 6 or 7 wt spey rod with a skagit head and sink tips instead. My gut feeling is that the 11' switch rod would likely see a bit more use overall, while the 13'2" 7wt would probably be great if I end up fishing on any of the larger streams, but I can really only see bringing one or the other (plus the 2 single hand rods).
Thanks,
JB

P.S. I know that some of these easy access spots can be combat fishing chaos, and NOT my type of thing... for this trip I honestly don't care, since ANY fishing at all will be very profound for us both. I'm not too concerned if the spey stuff doesn't get any use at all even.
Jason is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-05-2013, 12:46 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 265
pm sent
Also, I'd reach out and PM Ard aka Hardy Reels. He may have a really good suggestion.
WesS is offline  
post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-05-2013, 12:55 PM
Dedicated Fisherman
 
Hardyreels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Alaska, Skwentna to Kodiak
Posts: 3,228
Send a message via Skype™ to Hardyreels
Hi Jason,

At the bottom of this step by step photo show I tried to explain the way I make a leader. http://speypages.com/speyclave/showthread.php?t=50647

I use these on all my rods from 7'9" Far & Fine to 15' Winston, and I use them everywhere I fish in Alaska. I included a link to the people who sell the braided heads in the text.

I can only tell you that it works, it's that simple.

Ard

PS. There are plenty of good spots to fish below Skilak Lake un the lower river. Check with some guides who run boats there and get someone to run you up the river to good wading areas. If I were coming down while you were there I'd try to help you guys out but I'll be busy with fishermen way up in the Alaska Range at the end of August. Good luck

Kill the hens you kill the river.
Hardyreels is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-05-2013, 10:21 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: N.Cal
Posts: 1,001
Thanks for the tips guys, really appreciate it.

Ard, I just browsed over your leader system and it looks very interesting. I think I'll have a few questions on that after I have a bit more time to play around with it.

Cheers,
JB
Jason is offline  
post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-05-2013, 11:12 PM
Dedicated Fisherman
 
Hardyreels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Alaska, Skwentna to Kodiak
Posts: 3,228
Send a message via Skype™ to Hardyreels
It works like a top, no need for weighted flies and no 15' of sink tip to deal with. I'm casting a 36" section on a Hardy Marksman 2 T right now in 8 weight using a 600 grain 55' head with vinyl running line. The leader turns like a dry fly line and I catch the fish this way. You just cast across or slightly up to allow for proper sink depending on current.

Kill the hens you kill the river.
Hardyreels is offline  
post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-05-2013, 11:58 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: N.Cal
Posts: 1,001
Thanks again Ard,
I'm very curious to try this since it looks and sounds very interesting. One thing I think I still am not quite sure that I follow correctly is how this would sink more than a length of T-whatever. Is the weight of the braid that much heavier, or is it thinner (less drag)? Either way, seems clear that it works and I'm always eager to try and learn new things so I'll give it a go for sure. Sounds like something that might be simple enough that my Dad would even be willing to try it
Thanks,
JB

Last edited by Jason; 07-06-2013 at 12:14 AM. Reason: link worked this time
Jason is offline  
post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-06-2013, 01:14 AM
Dedicated Fisherman
 
Hardyreels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Alaska, Skwentna to Kodiak
Posts: 3,228
Send a message via Skype™ to Hardyreels
Because you are using 5' or more of 25 lb mono as the butt with just 36" of weighted head - then your 15 lb tippet of 2 - 3 foot; the weighted section takes the mono down quickly.

The good news is that if your line is dressed it will continue to float. the only thing going down will be the leader.

These are also very easy to cast, no stripping in line. I use the system on lines from 55 - 70' belly's and cast with 50' plus my leader out the tip. You should start with short casts to get the feel of using the leaders and then once you're up to speed they will seem normal.

Longer heads = faster sink although I don't need anything longer than 36" and we have some good currents here. Interior - Kenai - Kodiak, all the same rig, no confusion or tips / wallets.

Ard

I'm leaving for 5 days and won't be able to reply till I return, try it, better order the heads soon, the shop is ran by Dan & Nancy, nice people and they will get them to you quick. Tell them Ard from AK. sent you.

Kill the hens you kill the river.
Hardyreels is offline  
post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-14-2013, 01:49 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BC Steelhead, Used to fish Quebec but fish left, Argentina Browns, Have Fished Iceland and the Kola for Atlantics, Mongolia for Taimen and over 27 years in AK
Posts: 105
Smile Easy and fun Silver Fishing in AK

Hi Jason,

Take a look at Saltery Lake Lodge on Kodiak.

http://salterylakelodge.com/

They will drive you and your dad right to the beat. Also can fish out of the boat on Saltery Lake. Wading is easy too. Price is reasonable.

Fished there for many years using both one and two handers. Your Dad would be fine with a one hander.

A thought.

8 )

Taft
Taft is offline  
post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-14-2013, 11:30 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: N.Cal
Posts: 1,001
Thanks Taft.

Actually, we're pretty well committed to the Kenai peninsula streams for this particular trip. Logistically we're trying to minimize any excess driving, and particularly flying. Boats unfortunately turned out to be a bit problematic for his back on the last trip we did together up there. A real shame, since we've been floating rivers in rafts and drift boats since I was a kid; we had thought that it would be an ideal fishing platform for him and it turned out to be a bit a disaster.

At any rate, I think we're pretty A-ok on fishing locations. He has a small cabin up there and has been fishing the streams between Soldotna and Homer for some time and we've found quite a few spots that still work for him even in his current state. Mostly I was curious about my own fishing options, in the spey realm. I'm starting to think I might just go ahead and bring 4 rods anyways; 2 single hand, a switch and a spey rod. That way I'm covered no matter what right? lol

-Ard,
Just got a package in the mail with the leader material, hoping to get out and give it a swing or two this week. Only have trout to swing for right now, but it will be fun to try out some new gear. Thanks for the tip.

JB
Jason is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Spey Pages forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Rate This Thread:



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Alaska Bound!!! c1inty Destinations 10 07-02-2013 02:08 AM
Alaska West - Alaska King Spey Fishing Week Auction! sean General 4 04-21-2008 08:53 PM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome