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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-14-2013, 02:29 PM Thread Starter
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Hey everyone im heading to the situk river in Alaska, going july 11-17th, targeting some sockeyes!! never fished for em, but sure it will be fun! Was just curious if anyone has any experience fishing for sockeyes on the fly or fished the Situk? im bringing the 7/8 switch gonna swing for em, were gonna be about 1-2 miles from the mouth of the situk, wasnt sure what kind of patterns or colors would be a good idea. Any info would be much appreciated!!

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A ginking we will go a ginking we will go we'll catch a sockeye in the mouth and never let him go!!!
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Check out the Situk River Fly Shop site

www.situk.com and look for the bulletin board as well as Bob Miller's blog. Bob sells sparse ties . . . tinsel on #4 Gammies . . . that the socks will eat.

However, 90% of the socks taken are lined in the Situk. Floating line, long leader, weighted and a pegged Corkie to determine how deep the fly swings. You don't have to use this rig, of course, but most people around you will be doing so.

The method doesn't matter to the fish.
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All be it years back ....

A fly done in bright red and yellow 'hair' worked very well for this type of fishery (yellow over red). Hooked lots, none of them 'flossed.' Still have those guys after all these years. Odd off is I've never hooked any other specie on the things. Go figure?

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A Chartreuse Mini Krystal shrimp sz 6, Christmas Island Special in Orange or Pearl sz 6. Swing it with a short piece of T-material (6-10') and about 3-4' straight 15#. This is the setup I sell guys and fish myself for them.

They say they don't bite, that is BS, they will crush these flies.
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I've watched them bite bare hooks . . . on video

Falling into the category of "Pure BS . . . unless you've seen it first hand", one of the guides in Yakutat, Aaron Shook (www.hobofishing.com) has videoed quite a few sockeye eating red Gami #4's fluttering around at eye level. The technique isn't quite bamboo rods and silk lines, however. Take any old baitcasting or spinning rig with a mono leader. Thread the 8lb UG on a hollow core 1 oz lead weight, then a red bead to keep the sinker off the knot/hook, then knot that Gami #4 on.

Here's the tricky bit: in crystal clear water, anchor in 4-8' over a bunch of socks. Usually they'll keg up downstream of a log jam. Poke the nose of the boat over the logs, drop the pick upstream and then . . . . (Again you have to see this . . . .) free spool to the bottom. Wait for the fish to un-spook and begin milling under the boat. Snap the rod up about 18"-24". The bead and hook will CLICK into the bottom of the sinker. Drop the rod and about a foot of line floats free and the red hook flutters down. Every 20 snaps a sockeye veers out of the pod and quick as lightning smacks that bare hook. It's then a rodeo as you horse the fish in on 7' feet of line, trying not to spook all the other socks downstream 100 yards. If you can get it into the net in 30 seconds or so, then the fish will settle down a few minutes later and return to their previous staging area.

After 15 minutes, the wonder has worn off. You've landed a few fish and lost an equal number, and you're wondering why you are doing this at all because it's quite tedious. (Except for the bit where you prove to yourself that the fish aren't being snagged or lined, and are actually swimming out of their pattern to eat.)

Once you see this rig in action, you can certainly believe that "somethings" fluttering, swinging or dead drifting at eye level can entice a sockeye to bite. On my flossing fly rig I had fair hooked socks on red, silver, blue and green Gamis . . . maybe 10% of the total hookups with 90% lined.

I doubt it's the color. I think it's a size/ movement/ peripheral vision triggering action that induces the take. But that's SWAG.

Needless to say, a little of this goes a long way.

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A Chartreuse Mini Krystal shrimp sz 6, Christmas Island Special in Orange or Pearl sz 6. Swing it with a short piece of T-material (6-10') and about 3-4' straight 15#. This is the setup I sell guys and fish myself for them.

They say they don't bite, that is BS, they will crush these flies.
As an Alaskan I second everything said above! This is all the info you need! Have fun
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They say they don't bite, that is BS, they will crush these flies.
I catch mine using Skykomish Sunrise and Freight Train patterns with a touch of sparkle in the wings as well as with plain orange or pink bunny fur comets. A few years ago I posted some pictures of stringers full of big tasty sockeye and had fellows insinuate that I had been snagging the fish.

You guys from Kenai know that when they run they mush right along but still there are those that can be had on a good bite. Of course you foul hook fish when there are 50,000 of them swimming past you but they will also slam a fly. Some of the places I fish, the sockeye tend to hold in big long runs and troths in the rivers. Here they (especially the males) can be very aggressive.

Since this topic entered the thread I had to make a comment, yeah, sockeye hit flies

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