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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 06-13-2013, 02:08 PM Thread Starter
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Deschutes late August

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I'm driving up from UT and spending 2 weeks on the lower Deschutes Aug 17-30, camping at the mouth (anyone else?) the first week probably fishing the walk in access. Contemplating a float down from Macks at some point.

I'll be solo for the first week I think, but I imagine there will be enough boat traffic between Macks and the mouth to make a solo float not too sketchy? I have plenty of big water boating experience, and 16' Achilles. Would be psyched to link up with someone who knows the good water for a float however. Buddy is coming up 2nd week. Neither of us have really fished the Deschutes, we usually fish the Salmon & Clearwater later in the year.

Would be great to link up with good people, and would appreciate an PM tips for making the most of our trip.

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Be aware that you will need a boater pass[on line] and when floating the river there is a spot near the bottom where you have to stop fishing on way to takeout.
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The power boat schedule may or may not affect your plans.

http://www.oregon.gov/OSMB/BoatLaws/...utessched.aspx
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The power boat schedule may or may not affect your plans.

http://www.oregon.gov/OSMB/BoatLaws/...utessched.aspx
I think 600 is correct that the boating restrictions may only apply to powered craft. BLM has a hell of a good map of way points, what's there for camping, shaded camp sites, full sun, etc. Some are fully serviced ("Potties") both sides of the river, most aren't and you have to bring your own BLM does check!!!!!

Good call on the time of the year, other than something really off you'll find out what the term "FISH ON" really means. A 7wt two hander is perfect, 12' leader and lightly weighted fly for early in the day. Sun on water put on a Poly Sink tip to get down.

Just don't forget a wading staff, you'll need one.




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Fred, thanks for bringing up what I poorly explained in my first post.

My point on that post was that you may want to find the weekend that power boats aren't allowed so you have possibly a little less competition on the lowest section of the river.
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you'll find out what the term "FISH ON" really means.
You'll also find out what the term "Combat Fishing" really means
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The White river can dump enough silt to put the lower river out of shape anytime the glacier is melting. Have a back up plan to fish the area around Maupin above where the white river dumps in.

The Deschutes has some very technical rapids that can eat a raft in a hurry. You can buy a book that will explain how to run the river. Some of the more technical rapids below Mac's are Washout, Lower Gordon ( Very Narrow slot between two rocks) Colorado and Fenceline also known as Rattlesnake. You might Google each set and have a look at them. There are Rapids above and below Maupin that are not runable. So be aware. I have ran the lower river since the early 60s. Also ran the upper river above Maupin some, now power boats can not run that area. If I can be of help please let me know.

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The White river can dump enough silt to put the lower river out of shape anytime the glacier is melting. Have a back up plan to fish the area around Maupin above where the white river dumps in.

The Deschutes has some very technical rapids that can eat a raft in a hurry. You can buy a book that will explain how to run the river. Some of the more technical rapids below Mac's are Washout, Lower Gordon ( Very Narrow slot between two rocks) Colorado and Fenceline also known as Rattlesnake. You might Google each set and have a look at them. There are Rapids above and below Maupin that are not runable. So be aware. I have ran the lower river since the early 60s. Also ran the upper river above Maupin some, now power boats can not run that area. If I can be of help please let me know.

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Skilly has forgotten more than I know about running this river. But this is a river you want to do a 'Guide' (or follow one) before you do a 'just myself.' The "Big D" is big water that can 'eat you' if you're not heads up.

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This is the web site to buy your boaters pass, Also there is a lot of info about the river.https://www.boaterpass.com/index.cfm
good luck and enjoy.
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If you don't have a reservation at the state park at the mouth of the Deschutes, I'd make one now. You can usually grab a spot in the overflow area if you're there early enough during the day on a weekday, but I wouldn't count on it. I've ended up grabbing a motel room in Biggs on more than one weekend because the campground was full. Air conditioning isn't a bad thing in August on the Deschutes, though.
Be prepared for heat, sun, and wind. August days are long and the best fishing is usually early and late. Also, if you're fishing at the mouth, you'll be hiking several miles a day (at least). Pack lots of water and sunscreen. I like to backpack or mountain bike up a few miles and camp so I don't have to hike up and back each day, but both options can be brutal on a 100+ degree day. And definitely have a backup plan, the snowpack is light this year and the white glacier may make the lower river a muddy mess by mid August. Check the Deschutes Angler website for up to date info on the water and fishing conditions before you go.
On a side note, there seems to be MORE traffic on the non jet boat weekends, seems like everyone in the state with a driftboat decides to float on those weekends and boat-in campsites are at a premium.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/environmen...river_por.html

Some good information to know about Deschutes water temperatures.
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Really interesting read.

Water temps coming out of Wm. Jess Dam here on the upper Rogue are highly monitored. Water comes out of the base of the 'lake' at 52 degrees and temps are recorded at several places down stream. Gets above a certain level (don't know what that is) and the water release is increased.

High local temps at the moment and the minimum flow (last I looked) was 2000 cfs.




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All good points above.

I'd add that if you're walking up, you'll be able to scout Moody, Rattlesnake (fenceline), Knock-Knock, Colorado, the Gordons, and if you're REALLY ambitious, Washout (8 mi up?). You can fish hard in the morning, and then scout and watch the boats in the PM.

Many anglers use mountain bikes to ride up the access RD. I have no idea how safe they are when leaned against a rock or tree. Which reminds me, periodically fishing rigs are broken into at the upper parking lot. Don't tempt the thieves by leaving stuff out where it can be seen. Make your outfit look like a birdwatcher's!

Some, like me, worry a lot about the snakes. My dad stepped directly over a coiled, buzzing snake fifteen or so years ago. Right at dark, and 10+ miles up. Just keep your eyes open.

As a young man, my buddy from the Dalles and I would float Macks to mouth in a day. Not nearly enough fishing and a heluva lot of rowing on a very long day. Two days is better, I like eight or so days now.

Have fun; tell us how your trip went when you're done!
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Lots of good points. Going to stay flexible in my thinking and adaptable in my planning and hope for the best, which is to say, I get to go fishing at all! Anything else is a bonus.

Including some time in my itinerary for a trip to Pacific City, go out on a dory and fish chinook and set crab pots, explore the Sandy, and sample the many bounties of the region.
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