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post #1 of 48 (permalink) Old 06-03-2013, 11:36 PM Thread Starter
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Question Kispiox access

Has anyone heard any reports re the Natives charging similar rates as last season on the Kispiox thru their reserve?
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post #2 of 48 (permalink) Old 06-04-2013, 06:35 AM
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I guess they will.
For me it's the reason not to go to the Kispiox this fall.
I don't mind to pay an extra 10 or 15 bucks a day, but 100 bucks for me as a NRA is to much.

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When I was up at Bob's place I believe he told me it was $100 per day to fish their stretch of water.

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post #4 of 48 (permalink) Old 06-05-2013, 03:24 PM Thread Starter
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Yes-$100 to fish and $25 to launch/take out boat and I think $200 for non resident aliens.
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You could look at the positive side,the guides will be paying an annual fee and most likely be fishing the waters they paid to fish.Thus leaving the rest of the river for us.
Great thinking!

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Unfortunately the guides were still all over the Kispiox last season.When we worked out what the guides paid per client it was about $4-5 each to fish the lower river.( a great deal for them).Also there were efforts by some guides to also control other access points on the river.
This present situation makes the last pull out at "Rivers Edge" thus eliminating some of the best water on the river from non-guided fishers.If one was staying a Bob Clays the upper patch would still be available.
Last year my brother and I did drift from Rivers Edge to the lower patch one day landing 5 steelhead in 2 hours on the upper and middle patch.We were able to bargain down the Native river warden to $25 instead of $125 but he told us this was a one time only!
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Unhappy Sp the NRA cost has doubled?

Last year it was $100/ day for NRAs and now it's going to be $200/ day? I guess that reduces the non-guided fishing from slim to none.

I can't see how this maximizes revenues for the tribe, or enlists (or retains) more members of the unofficial 'Friends of the Kispiox' grouping that can be counted on to support the river and its fish.

I'd be interested in learning how much Bear Claw is paying to secure access rights. Maybe a group of others . . . NRAs even . . . could pay a lump sum and then divide costs among participants on a per diem basis. Likely to be v. difficult to administer but perhaps better than sitting out another season.

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you'll fuel the greed fire if you pay that fee.
but if you want to fish in a barrel and bask in your hard earned spey fishing prowess, by all means... pay the fee and ruin it for the foreseeable future.

big river, that kispiox... so fish it.

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As an expert stirrer yourself, you should let someone else hold the spoon!

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These "Kispiox Complaint" threads really make me laugh.....
It's private property. The owners have the right to do as they wish.
We're lucky they are still granting access.

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We're lucky they are still granting access.

in lieu of the message I've just (perhaps wisely) erased I'll just say this...

'if you promote or agree with the privatisation of water you're not worth acknowledging.'

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Kispiox access

Yes we know it is their land and they can do what they want.
But-this large change in charges and enforcement of was instigated not by the Natives but by a certain "guide" for obvious reasons.
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Beating a dead horse

Saying these changes were instigated by a single guide is laughable. As has been stated before, the land is private. You want to fish it, pay up. Don't want to pay, don't fish it, it's simple.
There are hundreds, if not thousands of km's of rivers on the Skeena system to fish. I know the Kispiox is a small river with big fish, it's no secret. There are others that have similar fish and less people. Do some research, drive the extra mile, walk farther then the next guy, and find a spot where no one else is fishing.
Enough bitching about the situation. If the Kispiox band wants to charge for river access, parking and boat launching ON THEIR OWN LAND, they have the right to do it. Anyone who disagrees with this and owns a house or land somewhere else should be careful- I've got a bunch of friends with a ton of beer and whiskey looking for a place to put their tents and camp for the weekend. They've decided that your place looks like a great place to camp and party. What's that you say, "You own the land and it's your right to tell them to get off of it."
Funny, that's what the Kispiox band are saying.
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in lieu of the message I've just (perhaps wisely) erased I'll just say this...

'if you promote or agree with the privatisation of water you're not worth acknowledging.'

cheers,
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Yup.....wise move.
Never once have I said that I agree/support with the privatization of waterways......quite the contrary actually.
But I do respect private property.

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Yes we know it is their land and they can do what they want.
But-this large change in charges and enforcement of was instigated not by the Natives but by a certain "guide" for obvious reasons.
You should "call out" that guide publicly. Lambaste him on the internet...... It seems everyone is quick to blame the natives but nobody has the balls to tell the "real" story..... Something seems rather "fishy" about that story.......my guess is that most of it is B.S.

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