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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-19-2013, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
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steel head british columbia, kings in alaska or taimen in mongolia

Hy everyone:
its sunday and i want to dream just for a while
I always think of going spey to one of so many wonderfull places in the world
I was thinking of going 10 days or a week to:

a)british columbia for steel head . Many videos.Skeena river and so many others.

b)another that i cant stop watching videos is alaska , specially alaska west where i saw there are exellent spey instructors were i can get my spey to another level(may be)(im not to bad but i want to get better!!! a pracise man obcess!!

I saw also pike in alaska??

c) and the last one taimen in mongolia!!!

anyway, if someone that have been in those places can tell me his prefernces i
would be really glad and appreciate it

by the mean time i will continue practise spey , shooting my afs with my beauty thomas dh 13 8 to my neighbours home!!!!
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Taimen in Mongolia... way more unique. Although the clock may be ticking for BC steelhead...
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I'd vote for BC Steelhead, for all of the obvious reasons - beautiful scenery and big, beautiful, aggressive fish that take swung flies.

I have been to Alaska twice. Caught lots of fish (almost too easy, which is but one of the reasons I vote for BC). Way too many big Brown bears, and although they were not interested in us, it is extremely disconcerting to be surrounded by 8-10 big Browns, even if they are focused on the salmon. I fish to relax, and it definitely was not relaxing.

Taimen in Mongolia sounds like fun, but I just think that a Steelhead is a much more attractive fish, and I'd rather have a trophy grip and grin with a red-sided steelhead.

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post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-20-2013, 04:31 PM
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Interesting Choices...Hmmmm

King runs in Alaska have been down for the last several years and the forecast for this season is not positive.

Have been to the Egg Ur river system in Northern Mongolia for Taimen 3 times (07, 08, 09). There is a short spring and then a fall fishery. Friends who went last year were disappointed on the number and the sizes. Long way to go get disappointed. You would also need to get a multi entry visa if going thru Beijing.

The spring steelhead fishery in the Skeena system was one of their best ever.

Good luck!

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thanks a lot for the advice

thanks a lot jim,taft,and zilliox.
seems that you have a little of your heart in steel head in bc.
which is the best time of the year to go fishing steel head and kings. Thinking that sometimes is not so easy to catch steel heads so if we add salmons may be you add more possibilties to catch more fishes. is like that??
which is the top river or the rivers that one have to fish ???? a good spey handed guides in bc??

what i like or thought of alaska is those guides that for the videos i saw is like their are best gurus or really good guides all together, i my aprreciation??( ed ward, larimer, gould and whatever)
may be or for sure there are exellent in bc too, and my level doesnt need a master to get ber, not that good!!!!

in the other hand the scenery of mongolia looks like its going to take the best part of the human being, its tranquilizer,there is a coincidense that is a way too long of course. im in argentina.


anyway , im going to continue with the research . want to make a good fishing trip. life is too short to let things pass away!!

thanks again for you advices

any more sugestion ill be really apreciate it

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I've never been to Mongolia, so keep that in mind. And I LOVE BC and Alaska.

But if this dream has financial realities at all, you could go to both BC and Alaska for the cost of Mongolia. So I'd do that.

If I was wealthy and there were no constraints, I'd just be scheduling all three for their optimum seasons.
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Now that would be a 'Bucket List' trip.

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Taimen in Mongolia... way more unique. Although the clock may be ticking for BC steelhead...
Thirty years after you got back folks will still be leaning forward and 'You went where to fish for what????'




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If you opt for the BC trip, I would highly recommend Skeena River Lodge with Jeroen Wohe or Spey Lodge with Wally Faetz. Both operations are first rate with wonderful guides and options to deal with weather issues and changing conditions. Can't go wrong with either of them.
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If you opt for the BC trip, I would highly recommend Skeena River Lodge with Jeroen Wohe or Spey Lodge with Wally Faetz. Both operations are first rate with wonderful guides and options to deal with weather issues and changing conditions. Can't go wrong with either of them.
What is the price range on these guided trips on the skeena?
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I think Jeroen ask about $ 3000 a week. And he is good. Very good!!

It seems the grass is somewhere else always a lot greener!
I fished Alaska, I fished in Siberia and lots of times in BC.
But I like to go to South America for some Golden Dorado fishing!

My best memories are not too old!!
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Smile Kings and Steelhead...or Steelhead and Kings?

Kings and Steelhead -

-Rules out AK since June and a bit of July is the time for kings. Steelhead come in mostly late Sep and Oct. Prob if going in Oct to Kodiak or out on the Aleutian Chain WX can (think will) make getting in and out a crap shoot the later you go.

-Another alternative would be to go to a June week on the Dean. Check the B.C. West website. Rod slots are tight and the fishing is tough.

If Steelhead and Kings -

-You could do the spring fishery in the Terrace area (Skeena system) where there will be steelhead and the springer kings coming in if you go in Apr. Fishinfool recommendations are good and I always enjoy fishing with him. You could also go with Nicholas Dean Lodge too.

If Silvers, Chums, Pinks and a steelhead, assuming you can get thru the other fish, then get a rod slot on the Skeena system in the fall. Jeff Bright hosts a week under NDL where they camp on the Skeena and swing flies as the waves of fish go by. Great fishing and a good value.

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The rates are a bit higher than 3K and I think will be going up next year so I am reluctant to quote anything specific. Both places have web sites so I would look there and on facebook. You do have a lot of options.
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Another plug for Wally Faetz and his Spey Lodge. Can't tell you how much fun I had, how well taken care of I was, unbelievable food, and the three largest steelhead I've ever caught.
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really thanks a lot guys for your time and wrote me your advices
i have a lot of information to use
ill keep in touch
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Stay home and fish the Rio Grande at TDF. FAR MORE PREDICTABLE.
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