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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 04:01 PM Thread Starter
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kalum river/copper river / terrace area

my fish of the month october 2012.
very strong steelhead on copper river, not so big but strong fish fresh fom the sea.
coho on upper kalum, not realy big but 20 lbs is good fish.

the steelie was muche stronger than the cohos.
fish just from the sea is gread.

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FYI the fungus you see on the tail of this steelhead collected for hatchery brood stock is the result of handling with a tailing glove. Gloves remove the slime that the fish have to prevent disease such as this fungus.

Please do not handle fish with gloves that you intend to release.
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Beautiful fish. Congrats!
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post #4 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 11:16 PM
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Nice fish! I agree with Pat, get rid of that glove...no different than a nylon net and completely unnecessary to land a fish gently.

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glove

Nice fish indeed, but again why that pussy glove?
It damages the fish as Pat said!
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Hi,
I don't own a glove but was thinking about getting one cause I thought it is BETTER for the fish. I am not an expert at all but have read it somewhere. I guess Dutch also used it because he thought he would do something good.
Anyway - thanks for the advise. Gloves just fell off my wishlist for Santa;-))
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gloves

what about the 'new' tailing net gloves sold in fly shops these days.
they are advertised by Jim Teeny to cause less mortality not more?
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No way they can cause less mortality then a bare wet hand... Steelhead are about the easiest fish to hold onto due to their large ass tails. Gloves not required!

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tailing

Actually I have found it much easier on the fish to use one of these tailing 'nets'
I do have trouble securely hanging on to large steelhead once brought to hand. This tailing net for me cause the fish much less trauma.
It is not dry but wet when you use it and your hand does have some slight contact with the fish. Also there have been studies of humans passing along diseases by human skin contacting the fish.
No perfect system.
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Perfect system is sliding your hand down the leader and popping the fly out....
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Agreed when you pick a fish up out of the water with your hand just behind the fishes head it puts pressure on the heart. This can and does cause the fish to have a heart attack. Leave it in the water take your picture and let the fish go un harmed. Fish don't like being picked up ever.
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thanks to theflyexplorer the other thanks for comment, i think the fishnet wo use the guiding normaly is muche dangeres than my gloved hand on the tail,
o.k your people have right.
we do ar best.

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Agreed when you pick a fish up out of the water with your hand just behind the fishes head it puts pressure on the heart. This can and does cause the fish to have a heart attack. Leave it in the water take your picture and let the fish go un harmed. Fish don't like being picked up ever.
Interesting call on the 'heart attack,' not heard that before. But wouldn't be the least surprised as a fish anatomy is designed to be supported by, and in, water. If I'm going to release an 'all too lively' fish I'll just step on the leader and go for the fly with forceps attached to my shirt.

Still too lively I'll just cut the leader. Flies I've got lots of .....




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thanks to theflyexplorer the other thanks for comment, i think the fishnet wo use the guiding normaly is muche dangeres than my gloved hand on the tail,
o.k your people have right.
we do ar best.

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The point is not that the glove is better than a net. The point that was made was to not use anything but a wet bare hand. Ideally, you'd just leader it and pop the hook but understandably, people want their hero shots.

I really think that BC should adopt Washington's "wild fish are not to removed from the water" rule.
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i prefer people hardly even touch their fish better to bring them into the shallows on their sides remove the hook and then direct them back out into the river.. I try to never ever "hold onto them" worst of all netting them then wrangling them out of the net then trying to release them...

if you fight a fish hard they will lie quietly in the shallows and not flop around.. however better to be flopping around in shallow water than to be excessively handled..

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