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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old 12-07-2012, 11:19 AM Thread Starter
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Skeena/Kispiox First Nation permits?

I thought it might be interesting to bring up a discussion on what I understand is happening up on the Skeena and Kispiox on some First Nation lands. Heard that there was a change up there resulting in an initial regulation by FN to charge fishermen a daily fee of something like $100 (a week at $450?) to fish. I understand that a few were paying and most were not. Just thought I'd bring it up and mine the vast knowledge and opinions of the folks on this fine forum. Thanks for sharing and discussing. Anyone have any experience with this last fall?
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I'd disagree, and say that most were paying and few werent when they were in the reserve land.

Their land..pay to play

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The price depends on where you are from. My understanding is that BC residents had to pay $25 a day (or $100 a week). Although, I don't think that includes if you wanna pull out a raft on their land.
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You want to play in my yard ?

You're gonna pay.

Fair and simple to me.

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Thanks for response. I have a lot of respect for First Nation and their lands and will abide by their regulations. Just curious about what they are?
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Kispiox and first nations fees

Ran into the first nations "riverkeeper" at the Gas bar in Kispiox village one afternoon this fall. Went there to find info on exact costs. As a non Canadian resident, it was 100$ to float from the potato patch down to the Junction of the Skeena. I thought that was not excessive, but cost to put your "floating" device in the water was also 100$. I thought that a bit excessive. Did not do it as another opportunity came up.
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Excessive based on what? Certainly not in comparison to other world class fisheries. I see no difference between this and property owners in England and Scotland charging anglers to fish their water.
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Excessive based on what? Certainly not in comparison to other world class fisheries. I see no difference between this and property owners in England and Scotland charging anglers to fish their water.
Agree 100%
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Excessive based on what? Certainly not in comparison to other world class fisheries. I see no difference between this and property owners in England and Scotland charging anglers to fish their water.
Apples and oranges on many levels. How many miles is the float? How many rods are allowed? Is a guide and boat included in that price? Does the guide manage the rods so everybody gets as fair of a chance as possible for the prime spots?

You aren't paying the money to salmon fish in Scotland just to access the water. You are paying for EXCLUSIVITY. You are paying for a managed experience so none of the BS games of public water free-for-alls are even in the back of your mind.

It isn't a fair fight...trying to compare Delfur or Invery or Islamouth or Hendersyde (or any prime beats on Spey, Dee Tay and Tweed during their respective 'prime time') to a stretch of 'private' steelhead water surrounded by thousands of miles of public steelhead water!!!

Two different worlds. Which are incomparable. Both with their charms and downsides. Grass is always greener and I choose the very green grass growing on the Scottish river banks 6 days a week and twice on Saturday. Sundays are for relaxing and oiling reels in the motherland of salmon fly angling.
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It would be cool for them to take some of the funds to improve the environment or the bank in some way. if all of their stretch is 100% pristine and kept clean, like a good river keeper should, maybe a sliver of the money can go to help out their Tahltan friends with a pretty big concern and a pretty tiny budget compared to Royal Dutch Shell. re: the sacred headwaters and coalbed methane round 2.

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Another rant about the skeena? Fishing here is not a right of passage for foreign nationals. We share all we can stand and more. The local band offices would be glad to hear your input.
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Another rant about the skeena? Fishing here is not a right of passage for foreign nationals. We share all we can stand and more. The local band offices would be glad to hear your input.
Again the same people make it about themselves... It's actually not about you or the Skeena

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There are some direct parallels here in Oregon vis a vis the Deschutes River. You want to fish/land on the Reservation side, you'd better have their taggings.

Don't know if it's the case now, but back 'then' the 'Guide' had to be a member of the Tribe. At that point, only one, but he was good, damned good.

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I agree with paying to put in and take on on their lands as well as paying for the drift.
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