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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-12-2012, 04:05 AM Thread Starter
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Back from Trinity chasing for Steelhead

Hello,
following advises given by some of you I have organised a 4 days trip in the Tinity river this first week of october 2012. I want to share my experience.
I have been fishing the section between the North Fork and Deloma.
The first day I discovered the best places to swing flies with a guide, I then fished by myself the 3 next days.
The fishing as well as the river and its surrounding have been great. The river bed is composed of a lot of rocks, a lot of places where steelhead can rest. In some parts, every inch of the pool can host its steelhead. It gives for very very interesting swing time...
I am used to fish some interesting rivers (Russia and North Norway) and I have to admit that not a lot of river have the pools the Trinity can have. The water speed and bed structure are in some places simply ideal... The water temperature is also just good. All the time cold enough to have fish in activity.

So, with all these good parameters, how went the fishing then? Not a pull during the 4 days... I just want to say that my fishing skills are not that bad in general and that I covered all the water quite easily. I am pretty sure that my flies were at the right speed at the right place... The first day with the guide gives me also this feeling.

It seems that I have been very unlucky. Some fish have been caught middle of september then no new run entered the river. I have meet few fishermen with a spey rod in hand. All had the same feeling. Very hard week. Some were "breaking the camp" 1 week earlier. They had spent 1 week and 2 days, fishing like crazy without a pull...

I forget to say that the river was full of spawning salmon. They were moving quite a lot in current and slower pools, perhaps not that good for steelhead trying to find a quite place. I don't really know if there is an impact there.

Anyway, I really enjoyed the trip. I should come back the exact same week next year. I should be more lucky. Catching an adult steelhead in these exceptionally clear and clean "greeny waters" has now became a dream. I want a fish from these waters!!!!!

I want to say thank you to the fishermen I met in the banks of the Trinity that gave advises to the French guy. If you are on this forum, please send me a message.

Hoops, forget to speak about what I have meet there (15 meters from me). You can look at that: http://youtu.be/7_Rgx6ZwT5I and http://youtu.be/I_Af3YHdmco

Thanks.

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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-15-2012, 11:00 AM
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J-F,
I think you might have been several weeks too early. There was a nice run of
salmon and steelhead on the Klamath not long ago. I have heard that
low water at the river mouth (ocean) might be a problem this fall. We fish
the area where you were. Also like the water near Junction City. Later on,
the river from Douglas City and up should hold lots of fish. The fall of 2007
found an incredible number of fish in the Trinity. Hope you can make it back
some day. Also try the Kiene forum for reports.
Best,
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I can easily believe the water flows were low. Couple of days ago we had our first measurable rain in months. What little we did get just soaked into the ground; doubt there was a teaspoon's worth of run off.

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post #4 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-15-2012, 02:22 PM
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J-F and Fred,
For much of July, Aug, and Sept they were releasing a lot of water from
Lewiston Res to cool things down. Flows back then were around 1500 cfs in
the Junction City area. Down to 540 or so now. We like it to be around
450 when we fish that region. The Trinity enters the Klamath at
Weitchpec. The Klamath from Orleans and up has been having some
encouraging reports.
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Hello,
thank you for your reply. You think that I went too early in general or this year in particular?
I will try the Kiene forum, for sure.


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J-F,
I think you might have been several weeks too early. There was a nice run of
salmon and steelhead on the Klamath not long ago. I have heard that
low water at the river mouth (ocean) might be a problem this fall. We fish
the area where you were. Also like the water near Junction City. Later on,
the river from Douglas City and up should hold lots of fish. The fall of 2007
found an incredible number of fish in the Trinity. Hope you can make it back
some day. Also try the Kiene forum for reports.
Best,
lsteinb
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J-F,
There are several Northern California spey pagers. Hopefully, they will
chip in on this thread. I'm about 1000-km from the river and make one or
two trips to the area per year. The http://www.kiene.com/forums/
site should give you some great advice. It's a Sacramento shop and
spey pages sponsor.
Best to you,
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There are good numbers of steelhead in the Del Loma section of the Trinity right now, but success seems to be all over the place for people swinging flies. Maybe all the salmon have them a little nervous.

This past weekend was slow for me and everyone else i talked to, only hooking one briefly. However, the weekend before the fishing was amazing as I ran into a couple of aggressive pods of fish.

I think October is a perfect time to visit the Trinity.
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Today may be a game changer.

IT'S ACTUALLY RAINING OUTSIDE!! No, not a drip-drop like a few days ago, but we're serious rain. Slowed down to a 'drip-drop' again, but earlier this afternoon a down-pour.

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Send some of that a little south Fred! Glad to hear there's finally some rain in the air.
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The upper Trinity river usually starts fishing more consistently for me by mid November with lower sections starting earlier. Weather dependent. Unfortunately the Trinity river has become somewhat of a zoo, in particular the upper section. There were some banner years a few years back but too many people couldn't resist the urge to post glowing reports on the internut along with writers for newspapers and publications making it seem like catching steelhead was easier than shooting fish in a barrel. Good spey swing water can be found down river where you can also escape a lot of the boat and bobber crowds.

Say hey Mr C, see ya in November!
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I am happy to see all these answers/messages from Trinity river fishermen.
Thanks to all!
Actually I have realized that I had been lucky to see a bear and not a Mountain Lion... I have fished alone until dusk then walking back to the car.
Any tips/experience you had with this cougar (as we say in French)?

Now that I know that there is some, not sure I will go alone again...
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Jean-Francoise,

While anything is possible in the wild, it would be very unusual to see, let alone encounter, a mountain lion on the Trinity. Now if you'd been over on the McCloud there's a (very, very) small chance you might catch a glimpse of one (lots of deer there) in the Nature Conservancy or on the Bollibokka property.

If you were to encounter one, the conventional wisdom is that you stand up straight - appearing as large as possible - and back away very slowly. Never turn your back on one or run. For the most part, they are shy creatures, deer-hunters, and want nothing to do with you.

You have a better chance of being struck by lightning than having an encounter with a big cat.

As to your timing, generally November will be better than Sept/Oct. We get very little rain here in the early Fall except in El Nino years. I try to spend Sept/Oct in Oregon and B.C. and then start fishing the Trinity in Nov. It's cooler, but not cold yet, and often there is some precipitation that freshens the river and brings the fish up. Most of the fish in the Trinity are hatchery brats and don't necessarily respond to the swung fly the way their wild cousins do. Yes, you can get them on the swing sometimes, but in the upper river they are headed for the hatchery and respond better to the egg-drifters. Wild fish are more likely to be around the North and South Forks where they go to spawn.
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There are tons of wild, man-eating creatures that roam the banks of the Trinity. And there are no fish.

Well, there are salmon that are dead (they won't take a fly) and suckers. And some squaw fish.

But steelhead are just a myth.

Well, until the "winter run" fish come in during December. SOMETIMES you can get them a little earlier in like Late November.
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Well noted for Oregon and BC!
Jed, what a description :-)! BigFoot is what is more common in the river.Right ;-)
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Mountain lions are increasing their range for sure. There have been several sightings in the Whiskeytown lake area not too far from the Trinity, trails have been closed because of these sightings. My 'winter hood' which is east of the lake has an occaisional sighting and between coyotes and mountain lions they seem to keep the stray dog and cat population well under control, kinda like SPCA volunteer helpers. Heck, just this summer a lion killed a deer and was hanging out around the Sundial bridge in downtown Redding while feasting on its kill. Another area which has it's share of lions (and rattlers) is the Pit river, when I fish there my dog and a Sig 40 are constant companions. But I have not had any lion encounters on the Trinity (or heard of any) but assume they're roaming the mountains, along with big hungry onry bears....
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