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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 08-08-2012, 03:19 PM Thread Starter
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Heading up to Spey Lodge in Sept. to fish the Bell Irving and Skeena system. Was wondering how conditions are looking up there right now. Specifically around flows and runs of returning fish. Thanks
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BI is Nass system, so the Area 3 seine and gillnet openings are no doubt laying some smackdown on the steelhead there. Been a ton of rain in that area (Nass/BI) this summer and the BI was still in major flood stage when I drove through there a month ago. Still lots of snowpack on the hills too. Skeena, well, game on!!!!!!! If I had the money for a guided trip this year, I'd be throwing it at the babine or sustut, not the BI.
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Thanks for the update. Trip is booked already. Going either way. Have over a month so hopefully things get in shape
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Bright Skeena prospects

Gentlemen,

Those of you with an interest in the prospects for the 2012 steelhead season on the rivers of the Skeena system will draw considerable encouragement from studying the recent Tyee Test Fishery salmon and steelhead catch graphs as compiled by the North Coast Steelhead Alliance. Scroll down the attached NCSA website URL to see what I mean. Furthermore Mark Beere, in his weekly Skeena River Summer Steelhead Update, to August 8, reports:" The Tyee Test Fishery generated Skeena River summer steelhead index to August 7 is 102, more than double the average for this date for all years (1956 to present), 49." At this point it could well be that, when all the numbers have been counted, season 2012 will finally eclipse 1998 as the 'best year' on this still great Northern British Columbia family of rivers. Beere, for those of you who are not familiar with Skeena issues, is the Smithers-based senior fisheries biologist with the Fish and Wildlife Branch of the BC Ministry of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations

http://steelheadalliance.com/

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There you go, cat's out the bag. Even though the '2' today on tyee was not encouraging, I'm going to blame that on a weak tide
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Fingers crossed both the Skeena and Nass tribs (and all rivers) get healthy runs this year. My buddies and I are trying the Bell Irving this year mid-September with a couple of days afterwards somewhere close to Terrace.

Last 2 years we've been blown out on the Bulkley...so river conditions, as well as run size, are major contributors to success rate...
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Gentlemen,

Those of you with an interest in the prospects for the 2012 steelhead season on the rivers of the Skeena system will draw considerable encouragement from studying the recent Tyee Test Fishery salmon and steelhead catch graphs as compiled by the North Coast Steelhead Alliance. Scroll down the attached NCSA website URL to see what I mean. Furthermore Mark Beere, in his weekly Skeena River Summer Steelhead Update, to August 8, reports:" The Tyee Test Fishery generated Skeena River summer steelhead index to August 7 is 102, more than double the average for this date for all years (1956 to present), 49." At this point it could well be that, when all the numbers have been counted, season 2012 will finally eclipse 1998 as the 'best year' on this still great Northern British Columbia family of rivers. Beere, for those of you who are not familiar with Skeena issues, is the Smithers-based senior fisheries biologist with the Fish and Wildlife Branch of the BC Ministry of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations

http://steelheadalliance.com/
Awesome..........tell the masses how great the fishing is going to be and give the BCWF some more fuel for their fire

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Awesome..........tell the masses how great the fishing is going to be and give the BCWF some more fuel for their fire

Well said, JG.
Pure silliness to Post such hyperbole.
Reality is that you just never know.


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Unreal. Guy tries to help out by providing factual information and he gets crushed for it. Priceless. Thanks for the info.
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It wasn't factual. He stated this yr would probly eclipse 1998. That's not going to happen. It's a good year, but it's not that good. And the only reason it's good is because the sox run is in the crapper. Last 3 days have been sh-t on the index.
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all the steelhead on the index turned around and went back out to the ocean..they might try next year instead. Shouldn't be any steelhead in the skeena this year. I hear the atlantic fishing in greenland is off the hook though.
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Unreal. Guy tries to help out by providing factual information and he gets crushed for it. Priceless. Thanks for the info.
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It is not unreal.
There is simply no need to promote any fishery.

Clearly many so-called anglers on these pages have poor prespectives.
It is almost a miracle we have any Steelhead to fish for.

If the exuberance for a "big run" were translated into action against the DFO (who allow so much concentrated netting for sockeye) and the USA netters in AK who take, incidentally, so many Steelhead then maybe I could overlook the Internet banter about a run and the self satisfying chatter.

You can see this stuff every August.

"help out"?
Man since when do humans need help in these matters?
It is a privilege to fish up there; might treat it with a bit of honor.

And don't publish any darn Videos, either

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the index is only calibrated to sockeye as far as I know. Applying those indicies to other species is weak science.
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post #15 of 37 (permalink) Old 08-11-2012, 12:48 AM
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Nobody's writing a thesis here MJ. You got a better index with a longer dataset hiding in your pocket?

Connolly, there is absolutely a need to promote this fishery, especially since this year there is 1) decreased incentive for foreigners to fish because of the AMP 2) multiple moronic development projects on the near horizon that require a united opposition from all steelhead lovers 3) an extremely vocal kill fishery proponent who need to be shouted down by responsible C&R folk and 4) a commercial fleet that continues to try and assert its value over a growing, sustainable and fairly well managed sport fishery.

Hyperbole about run size aside, noone who likes wild steelhead should be trying to keep responsible fishermen off the river. I like to assume the majority of folks on a spey board are responsible, conservation minded individuals.

Its a good run year, come on up, spend your money, buy skeena wild sweaters and help us tell enbridge, shell, the commie fleet and the bcwf to stop f--king with our wild steelhead.
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