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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old 03-31-2012, 01:06 PM Thread Starter
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New Skeena Regs go in tomorrow

New regs in tomorrow.


http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/reg...3/region6.html

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With obvious self interest and not really best interest for the fish, these changes will negatively effect local tourism. I dont know what the future will be long term but I can insure 5000 less dollars spent in terrace for this NRA 2012.
Really bummed but maybe I'll donate some of it to an institution that DOES want to look out for these fish. Heck maybe in a couple of years I can get a really good real estate deal on the copper river motel or the northern motel when they go under. Gonna miss those halibut bites after a day on the water. Bet that liquor store will hold up in the economic depression. They always seem to. Sad

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Once again a new set of regulations is adopted that will seriously affect the local economy.

It should also be noted that the Canadian resident only regulation which to me means if your are not a Canadian resident you cannot fish on the weekend seems pretty clear to me but the regulators added this.

Important note regarding Canadian resident-only times and zones:
This regulation change restricts all non-guided, non-Canadian anglers from fishing (regardless of the fish species targetted) during specified times and zones. Anglers are encouraged to review river-specific regulations prior to purchasing a Classified Waters license as all license sales are final. If you are unsure of how the regulation changes presented in this document affect your ability to fish, check with a Service BC Centre or a License Vendor or call the Fish and Wildlife regional office in Smithers at: 250-847-7260.


It would seem that only one group has the governments ear when it comes to new regulations if that if so things are sure to get worse.

Not a good situation whether you are Canadian or not.




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Just wondering what Non-Canadians will do on the weekends?
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Apparently the government feel that they should just push non-canadians further north during the weekends, or go Coho fishing... Pretty well sums up the fact that its about people management, and never about the fish

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Apparently the government feel that they should just push non-canadians further north during the weekends, or go Coho fishing... Pretty well sums up the fact that its about people management, and never about the fish
QWS = Quality Water Strategy

AMP = Angling Management Plan

This was never suspposed to be a conservation tool.

Angler management to help sustain a quality angling experience.

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Yeah. I was a bit taken back on the Canadians only deal on some of the days.

What if you have a dual citizenship?

It's amazing the politics and beauracratic BS that encompasses some places.
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Other places to fish

If you have a close look at the regs there are other places to fish on the weekend for nra's. All it takes is a map of the skeena and some planning. If you were planning on fishing the Bulkley but are deciding not to come because you can't fish on the weekends, the Skeena is an hours drive away.
For those of you who are complaining about regulation changes, why not have a look at other sea run fisheries on the planet and do some comparison. Go to Quebec and pay higher daily fees and have to enter daily lotteries to fish certain sections of rivers. Sure they have public water, but compared with the Skeena system it is not in the same ballpark. Want to fish in New Brunswick for Atlantics? Large sections of the most popular rivers are either private or you are forced to hire a guide. Have a look at Iceland, the U.K. or Argentina and you will find more of the same.
The Skeena system is the best wild steelhead fishery on the planet, period. It gets really crowded on the most popular beats during the prime months. Is the QWS perfect? Far from it. Will the regulation changes have the desired effect and cut down on overcrowding on some of these beats? We'll see this fall.
Instead of bitching and complaining and potentially canceling your trip up here, do some research and figure out where you can fish on the weekend. Explore some new water and fish on the Skeena a bit, see some new water and maybe catch a fish or two.
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How do the new regulations apply to GUIDED non-Canadians????

From what I have read, these regulations appear to exclude, at specific locations/river sections, on specific days (weekend days), and for other specified periods, ALL non-Canadians, regardless of being guided or not - or am I missing something??

And although the Bell-Irving river is mentioned, the Naas river isn't listed at all!!??


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Mike, If you click on the information brochure on pages 5 and 6 it has the guiding restrictions.


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Most of the time I have seen at boat lunch BC registrations and some form Alberta and very few from US. Crowding will be this season near the same.........during weekends !!!

Non-BC residents who can afford to stay 3-4 week will come , and those who came in the past for one week only, will not come. It is that simple.

BTW, I am not questioning the regulations but only sharing my personal observations.
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Most of the time I have seen at boat lunch BC registrations and some form Alberta and very few from US. Crowding will be this season near the same.........during weekends !!!

Non-BC residents who can afford to stay 3-4 week will come , and those who came in the past for one week only, will not come. It is that simple.

BTW, I am not questioning the regulations but only sharing my personal observations.
So much for those that can't afford a $6,000.00 plus trip to a lodge who scrape and save for a trip to steelhead paradise. The question for lodges is one of future client recruitment, impact this will have on the steelhead tourism industry, and most importantly support for the rivers and fish. One can only hope for the best.

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I keep on seeing a reoccuring theme...."The rivers and fish will lose friends/support"

Question for all Residents, NR's, and NRA's:

Do you belong to any B.C. fisheries conservation groups ?

Any Canada based conservation groups ?

How about conservation groups south of the border ?

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For those of you who are complaining about regulation changes, why not have a look at other sea run fisheries on the planet and do some comparison. Go to Quebec and pay higher daily fees and have to enter daily lotteries to fish certain sections of rivers. Sure they have public water, but compared with the Skeena system it is not in the same ballpark. Want to fish in New Brunswick for Atlantics? Large sections of the most popular rivers are either private or you are forced to hire a guide. Have a look at Iceland, the U.K. or Argentina and you will find more of the same.

There is a big difference between private water and government regulated waters.

Either way it just means some people will return and some people wont. I have a feeling the local business owners will be complaining more than the fisherman if they are out a decent junk of money this next year.
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As a NRA who did 2-week diy trips since 1990, I will now enter BC on Sunday instead on Saturday and that one weekend I'm not allowed to fish the rivers I like, I probably will carry an extra rod and reel with me now to fish a lake.

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