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Timing fall steelhead for swinging

Looking for some advise on swinging flies during the fall run. I've gone with a guide a couple of times in spring and had good success on drop backs. Closest river for me for swinging is the Salmon River in Pulaski which has had a good king and coho salmon run this fall that is just about over.

My question is, will the steelhead still be too focused on eggs to make swinging an effective method? Would it be wise to wait a week or two after the salmon run is over? The added bonus would be that the crowds should thin out.

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Swinging on the salmon

I fish the salmon about 3-4 days a week(swinging flies).The fishing pressure has went down alot over the last couple weeks. The best way I found to fish the lake run rainbows is with egg patterns within the bugs your throwing. Egg sucking leeches or flies with bead droppers built into the fly. The fishing is only getting better with the colder weather.

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I only swing on the SRNY. I use only classics and it works well. So just like any other steelhead fishery in the country, fish the flies that you enjoy tying/fishing the most. It doesn't matter as much as you think If you like the fly and you are confident in it, then it will do the trick. I know people who fish big stuff - rabbit/marabou etc. They do it because they enjoy it. My best fishing buddy and I swing all medium sized classics with pretty good success. Many people are into Skagit. I don't think the SR has much application for Skagit. I only use Scandi heads with poly leaders. I have swung fish in all kinds of different flows this way. I am usually using a 15' 3.9 ips or 5.6 ips poly. I find this set up to be more enjoyable to cast.

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In my experience, When most of the kings are gone, the swinging is much better. I always just go find a piece of water that doesn't have many salmon - therefore it wont have many people. It usually doesn't hold many steelhead either but all it takes is one, right?!

Goodluck! The SRNY is a fantastic fishery for swinging if you can find the space In NOV you will find plenty of water and the fishing is excellent.
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My question is, will the steelhead still be too focused on eggs to make swinging an effective method? Would it be wise to wait a week or two after the salmon run is over? The added bonus would be that the crowds should thin out.
I think you may be on to something there, but the variables could be too many to say for sure. Here in Ontario, our big Lake Erie tributary (the Grand) doesn't have a salmon run and the steelhead take a swinging fly very well from early September to late November and beyond. Our big Lake Huron tribs (Maitland, Saugeen) do have salmon runs during September & October, but I haven't noticed that it has negatively affected steelhead swinging success. Now having said that, the salmon runs in Huron aren't what they were 15 years ago. I wasn't as successful swinging Lake Huron rivers back then, but that may be more because of inexperience.

I've heard that peak salmon spawning does have an effect on steelhead swinging success in the west Michigan rivers with big salmon runs. Any confirmation of that from the Michigan swingers?

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No, you shouldn't be concerned. Empirically determined just days ago that plenty of SR steelhead will annihilate a swung fly right now despite the incredible numbers of spawning salmon.
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Hi

The crowds are thinning out now and the 2handers are emerging for the season. Chrome is spread out top to bottom with the salmon only left in upper river. Only a few browns this year. I have taken fish in all sections, altho most pressure is up high, RR>UFZ, etc...Plenty of fish taking on the swing, tho, and river volume has been bumped to 1000cfs this week after being down to 350 or so for a while.... That should get things moving good... I wont be back up til sat tho,

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I can second what everyone is saying. Steelhead on the swing in the SR is picking up. I got a nice big tug yesterday. With the increase in water (1,000 CFS) the fish will spread out and things will be great. I would imagine the water should stay up for at least a few days, so try and get to the river when you can!
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Headed there this w/e. Was hoping for overcast skies and higher water but we'll see. If anyone wants to join me for swinging some classic spey flies, reply with interest...would love to share it this year.

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Another question(s) for guys who fish the Salmon often...

When the water is low like it is now how do you change your tactics? Lighter lines? Different lines? Seems a skagit would make too much noise in low water.

Are there levels when the water is simply too low to swing?

My guess is 750-1,000 is about perfect the typical skagit (450-550) and sink tip set up.
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I fish a trad floater(midspey) when the levels are 335 as they have been, and my hookup rates have been decent, there was a time not so long ago where I fished that setup at any level, actually... Took 2 on Monday that way, including a beautiful 12lber. Thats really the only change I make

There are plenty of places conducive to swung flies at low levels.
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