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Oban/ Fort William

Staying at Loch Avich House on Argyle estate second week July. The wifes plan,told me there's salmon fishing to be had on the estate, but can't seem to find much info on it. Wondering if anyone has any knowledge of this area.
Last time over I really wanted to fish Fort William but never got the chance. Is there any assocliation water there or is it possible to book on in advance at any of the beats? Kinda remember it as an expensive and somewhat tough spot to get in on, is that still the case?

Thanks for any info.
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Oban/fort william

Hey Jim,
Will be back from fishing BC next week and can get you some info, was in Fort William before i flew to Canada.
Not sure of the detail, but was in the fishing shop in town, might be a good place to see what they can do for you.
If not i will check it out for you when i get home.
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Fort William in April

My wife Susan and I went to Lismore and Fort William in April of 2011. She said where the heck are you taking me until we arrived at the Gate house. She then proceded to take out her camera and started shooting. We had been scheduled to stay at the gate house flat adjoing the horse paddock but that was under renovation. Our host greeted us and brought us to the flat attached the Manor house and quite near the service entrance. Our two bed room accommodations were very clean, very comfortable and set up as a typical self catering / time share style unit with pots, pans , etc., the living area had plenty of fishing magazines and a small tv.

The stunning estate has approximately 230 acres of pasture and most is used by non milking cows and sheep in pasture. The April setting included Daffodils, Magnolias, Rhododendron, and other flowering trees in bloom. Forty shades of green barely describes the quite beauty of this place and the Cork-Blackwater River is right there.

We brought 8 days of sun and falling water with us and so while the fishing was exceptionally pleasent I did not have a pull. Our host had suggested i bring a 15' stick but the 14' Berkie was more than enough.

I happened to fish every morning and we would travel the country side in the afternoon. the highlight of the trip was fishing with Klink (Damien) on his home water and enjoying his company and hearing about the local give and take. The Cork-Blackwater is considered a fall river but since the nets are down the spring run has improved and getting better every year. While catch and release is not the norm in Ireland, more and more fisherman are letting them go and this river has lots of potential. I will definately fish this place agian.
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My wife Susan and I went to Lismore and Fort William in April of 2011. She said where the heck are you taking me until we arrived at the Gate house. She then proceded to take out her camera and started shooting. We had been scheduled to stay at the gate house flat adjoing the horse paddock but that was under renovation. Our host greeted us and brought us to the flat attached the Manor house and quite near the service entrance. Our two bed room accommodations were very clean, very comfortable and set up as a typical self catering / time share style unit with pots, pans , etc., the living area had plenty of fishing magazines and a small tv.

The stunning estate has approximately 230 acres of pasture and most is used by non milking cows and sheep in pasture. The April setting included Daffodils, Magnolias, Rhododendron, and other flowering trees in bloom. Forty shades of green barely describes the quite beauty of this place and the Cork-Blackwater River is right there.

We brought 8 days of sun and falling water with us and so while the fishing was exceptionally pleasent I did not have a pull. Our host had suggested i bring a 15' stick but the 14' Berkie was more than enough.

I happened to fish every morning and we would travel the country side in the afternoon. the highlight of the trip was fishing with Klink (Damien) on his home water and enjoying his company and hearing about the local give and take. The Cork-Blackwater is considered a fall river but since the nets are down the spring run has improved and getting better every year. While catch and release is not the norm in Ireland, more and more fisherman are letting them go and this river has lots of potential. I will definately fish this place agian.
Hey Bill, hope you and your good wife are keeping well. Glad you enjoyed your trip here but I think Jstroke is referring to a Fort William in Scotland, although with your praise for Fort William in this neck of the woods, he may just decide to pay Ireland a visit! Hope to see you back here at some stage and it was great to meet yet another member from across the pond.

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Cheers Gord, I'll have a look for that shop online. I see you've become quite the busy man since that day driving around the Spey in your daughters c
ar......she ever get that back in one piece? Hope to hear from you when your back home.
Klink,I was referring to Fort William in Scotland. We will be going up to Ireland while we're there to visit friends. I think it's the Mayo we'll be fishing when there.Have you ever fished it?

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Jim I would think its the River Moy in County Mayo that you are fishing, a river with one of the most prolific salmon runs in Europe. July is a great time to fish it if conditions are good and plenty of different beats to fish at very reasonable prices, you will have a great time. If you can find out which beats you are fishing on the Moy and let me know, I will dig up some more info for you.
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The salmon river that enters the sea at Fort William is the Lochy. Get in touch with Jon Veitch through his website http://www.riverlochy.co.uk/

Great river, described by John Ashley Cooper as the queen of Scotland's rivers, the Spey, of course, being the king. I love it as a river and wish I could have fished it in its prime. These days there are salmon farm issues which Jon Veitch and his team are trying to correct.

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Thanks Willie, that will really help out.
Klink, I'll send a pm when I get a chance to get some more info from my buddy over there.
Thanks again guys.

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The Dukes estate ?

Hi Jim, Are you going to fish the Duke of Argyles Estate at Inveraray ?
If so I can help.
Fished there from 1980 to 2000 THEN GAVE UP ! LACK OF FISH !!!
We would fish for sea trout and Salmon, with great success . Sadly in those days we killed all the fish over 4 lb , smoked most of them and sold them , thus paying for our fishing.
Fish farms have had a very bad effect on the fish but we killed hundreds !
Before the farms the lough was full of small fish up to 3 lb plenty mid range 8 lb + and some big fish ( Jock Black the then estate keeper had one of 17lb or 18 lb ) my best 9lb 2 oz.
If that is where you are fishing , have loads of info .

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The Lochy was replenished with a hatchery years ago & the scource fish were Norwegian large wild broodstock salmon. Whether this introduced specific genes for large fish I don't know [nor am I in any way qualified to comment] however the Lochy has a history in recent years of producing some very big [including 40lb+ fish on more than a few occasions - although these are often caught quite early in the season when there are few but big fish running] fish; taking account of the very few rods fishing this river then the numbers of really large fish recorded is very high when set against total catches per rod.
It's a beautiful river in a magnificent setting with Ben Nevis [the highest mountain in Scotland & the UK] right alongside you [but remember the midge repellant or you'll be suffering from anaemia by the end of a warm, muggy & breeze free week!]. Apparently this is the second most " zig-zaggy" piece of coastline in the world after the Western Norwegian coast - which is famous for its' Fiords, in Scotland they call them "sea-lochs", but they are the same thing.
The picture on my avatar is a 16lb Lochy fish taken on the lower beat with well over 20 long tailed sea lice attached, the gillie recconed it had been out of the salt for an hour tops as it was a running fish just pausing at the head of the pool; it swam off very strongly despite fighting like a drunken highlander!
Go there, you won't regret it.

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Hi Brian, not quite sure what water the estate has to offer while we're there.....from what I've gathered so far though it seems to be loch fishing jeez, leave it to the wife eh so I could use any info you have. Looks like I'll be spending most of my time up that way......hopefully on the Lochy.
Thanks again Brian, and hopefully we'll get a chance to chat. If you can send me a pm with your # and I'll give you a call.

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If this is the Loch Avich estate you are talking about South of Oban then you are quite a long way from Fort William and the Lochy (not forgetting the main tributary the River Spean) and the River Roy system. You will find the information from John Veitch on the link in the post above.

http://www.cottages-and-castles.co.u...d-Cottage:A674

So here are a couple of other avenues you might like to explore. Just near Oban is the charming River Awe. The beats below the dam are held by private syndicates. However, there is fishing to be had slightly lower down the Awe from Inverawe Fisheries - see here:

http://www.inverawe-fisheries.co.uk/...river-awe.html

The River Awe flows out of Loch Awe and the main tributary flowing in to Loch Awe is the River Orchy. As with the Awe there is some public access see contact here for the Craig Lodge Beat:

http://www.orchyfishing.co.uk/booking.htm

You'll need good water and the price of a rod reflects this.

Hope that is of some help.

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Thanks Clag, that is a great help. The Awe and the Orchy look really good from what I can see in those links. I'll be sure to fish there, rod availability permitting.....here's hoping. I'm sure though the drive from Oban will be a lot shorter than from Glasgow where we'll be staying for the remainder of the trip. How long a drive would it be from Oban? So I can tell my chauffeur.....I mean wife.

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Thanks Clag, that is a great help. The Awe and the Orchy look really good from what I can see in those links. I'll be sure to fish there, rod availability permitting.....here's hoping. I'm sure though the drive from Oban will be a lot shorter than from Glasgow where we'll be staying for the remainder of the trip. How long a drive would it be from Oban? So I can tell my chauffeur.....I mean wife.

Thanks, Jim.
Oban to- the Awe would be 10 - 15 minutes and add 10 for the Orchy. However, you are staying quite a bit South so I'd add another 20 minutes on top of that.
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