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post #76 of 94 (permalink) Old 06-29-2020, 11:29 AM
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As a US resident who lives fairly close to Canada and loves to go there whenever possible, I would be very, very shocked if Canada opens it's border at all this year, let alone this summer.
And I don't blame them one bit.


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And EU tests as much per capita as US.
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Being reported that Dr. Fauci said at a Senate hearing on the recent surge in COVID-19 cases: “We are now having 40-plus thousand cases a day. I would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 a day if this does not turn around.” If that is the case, the Canadian border is going to stay closed for a while.
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We are witnessing one of the greatest tragedies unfolding before our eyes, on our watch as they say. I can hardly imagine how the generations of the future will judge us. Without an ounce of political blame, I can say that WE ALL should do better! I completely reject the notion that taking personal responsibilities for the heath of others is somehow a political act or statement. The fact that some have actively worked to use this as one more opportunity to sow seeds of division, and turn this into a political issue is sad. The human suffering alone should be sobering enough to bring more people together to address the singular cause of the mess we are in. In recent decades alone, Americans have been able to largely set aside political bickering when faced with tragic events such as 9/11 and the Boston Marathon bombing (both of which were minuscule in terms of loss of life compared to what we’ve already suffered with Covid 19).

It would be impossible to imagine any decisions or policies that everyone would agree on, but it does not seem like too much to expect us to be able to grasp that the pandemic itself is THE singular problem that we all share. Whether I agree or disagree with various sate and federal measures to contain viral spread, I fully recognize that the need for bold action is (was!) urgent. I have plenty of frustrations about things that were, and were not done, but they seem comparatively petty in the grand scheme of things. My heart goes out to the many, many people whose loved ones died alone, to those who were not able to be there to say goodbye. I honestly cannot imagine their pain, something I sincerely hope that no one here will need to experience. Sorry for the rant, but I feel that it needs to be said. So many of the stories and discussions about this pandemic get ensnared in the politics, and the polarity of our community, when the real tragic story seems to be getting less and less attention; despite the fact that “the numbers” (human beings) have continued to grow and grow.
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I, for one, am ready for the 2nd wave !
My freezer is FULL of rolls of toilet paper !!
2nd wave? The 1st one is still building!
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I buy into Jason's thoughts on all counts. It is extremely hard for me to refrain from laying blame for inactions and mistakes, but I will. Most people know where I stand, anyway. Kudos to Canada for staying the course, and allowing science, rather than some other things, to guide that course.
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We are witnessing one of the greatest tragedies unfolding before our eyes, on our watch as they say. I can hardly imagine how the generations of the future will judge us. Without an ounce of political blame, I can say that WE ALL should do better! I completely reject the notion that taking personal responsibilities for the heath of others is somehow a political act or statement. The fact that some have actively worked to use this as one more opportunity to sow seeds of division, and turn this into a political issue is sad. The human suffering alone should be sobering enough to bring more people together to address the singular cause of the mess we are in. In recent decades alone, Americans have been able to largely set aside political bickering when faced with tragic events such as 9/11 and the Boston Marathon bombing (both of which were minuscule in terms of loss of life compared to what we’ve already suffered with Covid 19).

It would be impossible to imagine any decisions or policies that everyone would agree on, but it does not seem like too much to expect us to be able to grasp that the pandemic itself is THE singular problem that we all share. Whether I agree or disagree with various sate and federal measures to contain viral spread, I fully recognize that the need for bold action is (was!) urgent. I have plenty of frustrations about things that were, and were not done, but they seem comparatively petty in the grand scheme of things. My heart goes out to the many, many people whose loved ones died alone, to those who were not able to be there to say goodbye. I honestly cannot imagine their pain, something I sincerely hope that no one here will need to experience. Sorry for the rant, but I feel that it needs to be said. So many of the stories and discussions about this pandemic get ensnared in the politics, and the polarity of our community, when the real tragic story seems to be getting less and less attention; despite the fact that “the numbers” (human beings) have continued to grow and grow.
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Being reported that Dr. Fauci said at a Senate hearing on the recent surge in COVID-19 cases: “We are now having 40-plus thousand cases a day. I would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 a day if this does not turn around.” If that is the case, the Canadian border is going to stay closed for a while.
Even if 30-40k/day is maintained, the border will be closed. In early June to was 20k/day double of Canada infection rate per 1 million. If that rate were to drop to 10k/day and slowly moving down, the border could open with 14 days self-self-quarantee.

The border will open when both countries will be in the late stage of vaccination, whenever it will happen.
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Being reported that Dr. Fauci said at a Senate hearing on the recent surge in COVID-19 cases: “We are now having 40-plus thousand cases a day. I would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 a day if this does not turn around.” If that is the case, the Canadian border is going to stay closed for a while.
Even if 30-40k/day is maintained, the border will be closed. In early June to was 20k/day double of Canada infection rate per 1 million. If that rate were to drop to 10k/day and slowly moving down, the border could open with 14 days self-self-quarantee.

The border will open when both countries will be in the late stage of vaccination, whenever it will happen.
It’s been a tough situation. Sometimes when I fly home for shift break I have my company fly me to Nova Scotia so I can visit my father. I can’t possibly quarantine for fourteen days so I haven’t seen my father since February. He usually would go south for a couple months in the winter (to Portland, ME) so the visits would be easier for me and we can get in some family ski time. Fishing aside things are really screwed up right now and I don’t see any end in sight. My dad is my number one fishing and ski buddy and we never thought it would be like this.
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Except one, every other industrialized country managed to contain C-19 and opened up successfully. The only places where C-19 still rages where a leader is lazy , refuses to face reality, thinks he is a King and love to watch himslef on TV: US, Russia and Brazil.
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It’s been a tough situation. Sometimes when I fly home for shift break I have my company fly me to Nova Scotia so I can visit my father. I can’t possibly quarantine for fourteen days so I haven’t seen my father since February. He usually would go south for a couple months in the winter (to Portland, ME) so the visits would be easier for me and we can get in some family ski time. Fishing aside things are really screwed up right now and I don’t see any end in sight. My dad is my number one fishing and ski buddy and we never thought it would be like this.
It’s made visiting with my Dad pretty much impossible too, basically haven’t seen him physically since August 2019. Really wish we’d made that December steelhead trip happen, but those are getting tougher and tougher for him. Cannot wait for the opportunity to fish with him again, sooner than later I hope; but at this point it’s looking unlikely anytime soon. Best of luck to you and your father, I hope you get to fish together soon.
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Except one, every other industrialized country managed to contain C-19 and opened up successfully. The only places where C-19 still rages where la leaders is lazy , refuses to face reality, thinks he is a King and love to watch himslef on TV: US, Russia and Brazil.
But the great unwashed masses (us) are where we are and without the posturing some have to deal with family at home and family on the other side of an international border that always seemed as irrelevant as a county line.
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It’s made visiting with my Dad pretty much impossible too, basically haven’t seen him physically since August 2019. Really wish we’d made that December steelhead trip happen, but those are getting tougher and tougher for him. Cannot wait for the opportunity to fish with him again, sooner than later I hope; but at this point it’s looking unlikely anytime soon. Best of luck to you and your father, I hope you get to fish together soon.
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We missed our big spring ski trip which has been a family tradition since I was in my teens. Also, my mother who lives in Miami, has tested positive but is asymptomatic and can not visit nor can we visit her. Its a crazy time. Good luck to you in getting up with your dad and don't regret what you have not done. Its out of your control.
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It’s made visiting with my Dad pretty much impossible too, basically haven’t seen him physically since August 2019. Really wish we’d made that December steelhead trip happen, but those are getting tougher and tougher for him. Cannot wait for the opportunity to fish with him again, sooner than later I hope; but at this point it’s looking unlikely anytime soon. Best of luck to you and your father, I hope you get to fish together soon.
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Jason, Despite the border being closed ,travel through Canada to Alaska IS allowed .There are stipulations . No stopping , except for gassing up ,no sleepovers etc.

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Jason, Despite the border being closed ,travel through Canada to Alaska IS allowed .There are stipulations . No stopping , except for gassing up ,no sleepovers etc.
Thanks for the info there, I definitely was under the impression that was still off the table. At this point it wouldn’t help connect my father and I, since he would need to fly to get to his cabin.
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