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post #1 of 55 (permalink) Old 01-31-2019, 06:54 PM Thread Starter
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Best place to live for steelheading

I need a new place to live. Unfortunately, BC won't let me in (For those of you who say, "If you don't like the US, leave!" - It doesn't work that way. You can't just move where you want.) so I am limited to the US. I am considering Southern Oregon as the front runner right now - maybe in the Ashland area. The Rogue is there. The Umpqua is close. The Klamath is close - other NorCal trout fisheries are pretty close. The coastal streams are't too far. But, I am open to anywhere, really.

Where is the best place to live for swinging flies for steel?

Thank you in advance for your suggestions.

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This is the honest truth according to Ard.

Pick a home close to a river that has a history of steelhead trout being present. Don't stress over the location having large numbers of fish because if it does it will also have large numbers of fishermen.

Seriously, if I know that a river has counted at least 500 fish I'm good fishing there. The number of days I may fish without catching a steelhead has no effect on me. I enjoy fishing, searching, working my line and fly. When I finally have one grab it doesn't matter if I get it or not, at least I know I was right for working that spot.

My home river isn't listed as having steelhead and I am so thankful for that. I average 2 a year there and am always alone. Sometimes I travel to places where there are a lot of them but there are always boats drifting through with bead fishermen in them contaminating the area. I catch more fish there but there are also some days when people fish right through my water.

I'd rather fish somewhere where I think there's a chance and am alone than put up with all sort of yahoo that cab afford a fly rod.

Funny I was just thinking of looking for a place for sale closer to where I like to fish just today...…...
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move to australia.
get yourself a decent job.
afford to fish anywhere.
and then get to come back to australia!

try not to get yourself killed.



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I like New Zealand, but again, immigration is illegal, so I'm stuck in the US. (pretty solid song and video, btw)
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If you like catching steelhead, hard to beat where you are already thinking. If you like to catch big winter steelhead in the rain, along with your 50 best new friends, Forks, WA. If you like to catch steelhead nymphing in cold weather, the Great Lakes.
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I'm with you Ard. I'd rather fish all day alone and get skunked rather than combat fish and catch fish every cast. I like the solitude, and the quiet songs of the river.

"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it is not the same river, and he is not the same man".--Heraclitus
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If you like catching steelhead, hard to beat where you are already thinking. If you like to catch big winter steelhead in the rain, along with your 50 best new friends, Forks, WA. If you like to catch steelhead nymphing in cold weather, the Great Lakes.
A good number of us in the Great Lakes swing for steelhead.
And do quite well, thank you

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A good number of us in the Great Lakes swing for steelhead.
And do quite well, thank you

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I have never tried nymphing for stealhead here in the G/L area. Always swinging. Even for other species.

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According to a lot of west coast fisherman there are no steelhead here in the great lakes. And all they do here is chuck and duck or nymphing (bobber fishing) so I'm not sure that's even fly fishing although they are using a fly rod. I just go out and swing flies to keep my spey casting stroke up to par and every once in a while I'll hook one of those funny looking chrome fish with rosie cheeks. Quite pretty fish by the way. So yeah there's no steelhead here. LOL
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According to a lot of west coast fisherman there are no steelhead here in the great lakes. And all they do here is chuck and duck or nymphing (bobber fishing) so I'm not sure that's even fly fishing although they are using a fly rod. I just go out and swing flies to keep my spey casting stroke up to par and every once in a while I'll hook one of those funny looking chrome fish with rosie cheeks. Quite pretty fish by the way. So yeah there's no steelhead here. LOL
A tight line grab is still a tight line grab regardless if it's PNW or G/L. A Land locked salmon is still a salmon no?

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I think the debate there is all about whether they are natural/wild. By definition, a "true" steelhead goes to the salt, not a freshwater lake. Everyone understands they are the same species (actually all rainbow trout are genetically the same from what I have read) and that hooking and fighting one is the same fishing experience from a physical standpoint, but the lake run ones are not in quite the same natural realm since they do not go to the ocean, which is a much more dangerous and wild and diverse aquatic world than a lake. It is somewhat along the same lines as why people think it is "cooler" and "more fun/interesting" to catch a wild trout vs a stocked hatchery trout.
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BC
Wouldn’t take me

Guess they didn’t want anymore
Environmental scientists

They will take you if you have
Over 600,000$ in da bank

Or if you are part of an investment capital
Firm willing to bring lots of dough in to the country.

At least that’s how I remember it .

Pay to play

I lived in Ashland for a a year
About 20 years ago and loved it!!
It was the year of the flood!

It used to be cheap to live there
and now it is not :-(

Let us know where you end up!!


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Some Western guides think the Muskegon steelhead fight just as hard as the hallowed steelhead of the PNW. I heard that on a podcast in which Vokey interviewed Feenstra. She also implied that the lower great lakes steelhead were definitely not in the same league. In my own limited experience, a 13 lb buck swing up from a lake Erie tributary pulls about as hard as a big Wyoming wild rainbow. Having never fished the PNW steelhead dream destinations or the Muskegon, I can't make that comparison.

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BC is great to visit in Steelhead seasons but do you really want to spend the winter there?

I probably have more Mediterranean genes than most, but being anywhere in the Midwest in the winter goes double as far as I would be concerned. I caught a beautiful perfectly chrome winter hen yesterday a few miles from the ocean on the south OR coast, that took me into my backing, and while I have occasionally “suffered” there in the “winter” (robins are starting to sing their mating songs there already) yesterday it was sunny and in the high 50s F. We saw only one other boat the whole day, and were kind of surprised. How could you want better without being greedy?

So I think your first pass answer was a great one in our region - the upper rogue valley area (Ashland, Medford, grants pass) is a fabulous nexus of 12 months a year Steelhead fishing with all of Oregon and northern CA in easy access, and the rogue for daily 20 min access, not to mention something like 80 miles of water between the dam and the gorge. Deschutes, N. Umpqua, CA and OR coasts, not to mention, if you are so inclined, some great trout fisheries nearby - Williamson, Fall, Deschutes again, etc. etc.

I have a Steelheading friend who just moved to Medford and I may set up a tent in his yard.

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