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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 12-27-2018, 08:12 PM Thread Starter
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Scotland in August - Hoping for Help

Locked down two weeks off the first half of August for a trip to Scotland. A family vacation but no way Iím going over and not at least casting a line on a Scottish river. Our itinerary is pretty open although I know we will be spending at least 3-4 days on and around Skye.

Hoping for some intel on salmon rivers open and with fish at that time of year and availability of public water if it exists.

Would love to hear from those with some info either on the thread or via PM.

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I took a trip in August 2017, and fished the Spey and Dee Rivers. Preferred the Dee (Park beat) down between Ballater and Aberdeen. Salmon rolling all over, but only connected with one. Good enough for me!

Search for posted threads on this site. You'll find all sorts of intel and pics.

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All the rivers will be open at that time of the year. The rivers on Skye are small spate rivers which rely on rain, so probably only worth trying if the conditions are right, you can obtain permission from local estates or hotels. The catches have fell off in recent years, like all the west coast rivers due mainly to the salmon farming industry. If your visit includes the east coast, I would look to somewhere on that side to go fishing, if you are only having a day or two. At Inverness, you have the River Ness, which can be excellent in August, there is the association beat in Inverness itself, with occasional access to private beats above. A little further east there is the River Findhorn, it has a very good association beat at Forres. Next there is the Spey, it has association beats at Grantown and Aberlour, also occasional rods on the private beats at Brae and Gordon Castle, usually a better bet in August. To the south east of the Spey, there is the Dee, as mentioned above, Park can be excellent in August.
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I recently heard Simon G. on a podcast, he mentioned a website for just this type of thing. I will see if I can find it. I think it covered all of Great Briton but Scotland was the bulk of it.

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G. Richie offered very good advice. I would only add that in August the lower (and perhaps the middle) Tweed could be good.

Somewhat expensive to very expensive, unfortunately.

However, the famous autumn (late September to the end of November) Tweed run just collapsed in recent years.

Look at FishPal Scotland for availability, prices, and booking a beat.

I do really like the Ness, but you should know beforehand it is a quite a big river (and a short one by the way).

There is certainly a reason for the fact that the Ness consistently produced many of the best Speycasters in Scotland ...

Just my two cents.

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Thanks all. I really appreciate the input. While wetting a line on the Spey would be wonderful, Iím intrigued with the Ness. And Paulo, I appreciate the warning and big rivers donít scare me.

I will know more about itinerary in the coming weeks so will be picking peoples brains for specifics later.

Thanks again for all the responses. They are very much appreciated.

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We have Fishpal here. Agents for most rivers.
August, The Ness can be good, look Dochfor, or Ness side, you may find rods. Also lower Spey, Brae water.
Basically look for the rain clouds, and target systems with fresh water. However should it be low water, then look for the bigger systems, or fish the lower beats near the salt.
North of Inverness you have the Kyle of Sutherland, can fish very good in low water. Bonar Bridge .
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Iíll see you over there Duggan
Much like you, itís a family adventure, but with the hopes of casting a line.
The plan is to be stationed around Inverness and take day trips from there.


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From Inverness you can travel down to the other end of the ďGreat GlenĒ and fish the Lochy which runs from Spean Bridge to Fort William. Lovely drive , hour and a half if youíre lucky, and beautiful scenery. The river is stunning and as good a fly water as you will find anywhere. The catches arenít what they used to be but you never know.
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I fished the Alness last year with good luck. 45mins north of Inverness
A small intimate river with each beat being completely different and really fun to fish an explore

Novar Fishing controls the beats and it is very reasonably priced
Roger is great to deal with
there is a "salmon Quest" youtube channel that has drone fly overs of the beats... pretty cool
I fished a different beat each day and got to experience a lot

I stayed at a nice little B&B in town... very "Scottish" experience

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I can't really add much to what has already been said. Although, which airport are you flying in to?

I've fished the Grantown association water on the Spey, there are some pools that are good for fly and others that are more suited to worm and spinner. I fished it with low expectations and more for the history/tradition of the river. My favourite would be the Dee if I could only fish one Scottish river, awesome fly water.

I've fished the Ness and it is exactly as described: 'quite big' in British English, 'absolutely massive' in American English. I fished a private beat just above the association stretch with Scott Mackenzie. You'll need a big rod to get the most out of it, 15ft ideally.

It's miles away from where you'll be but I also like the club water on the Border Esk, which is very reasonably priced.

The slight downside to club/association water is that it's in short supply so when conditions are good it tends to be busy.

I think if you're flying in to Inverness I'd look at: Ness, Spey, Findhorn, Alness. If you're flying to Glasgow there's more rivers possible on the way up, like the Clyde, Tay & tribs, Dee, Lomond rivers etc.
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The thing with Scotland is the fishing is mainly let fishing with priority given to existing tenants,the best fishing on the best beats at the best times will be dead mens shoes,I'll tell you that now for nothing.
Now,there will be availability and some good fishing too!,but you'll need to be moving quickly as the lets for the coming season will all be going out or already out by now.
In the first instance try Fish Pal(google it!),thats an on line booking system for a lot of Scottish fishing/rivers and as good a place as any to start.If you have a fair idea of which river you want to fish, then try googling that particular river, see what comes up(not every river/beat is covered by fish pal!).The more confident you are in the river of choice the more likely you will get positive feedback and help to wards your goal.
There is some very good club and association fishing available which may well appeal.I would say one thing though.With Salmon you will be in the lap of the gods as to weather conditions that can very easily make or break your trip.You will hear of "spate" rivers, which are very dependant on rain fall, given rain and good levels they can give spectacular fishing, however-no rain, no water, no fish!,so just be careful.
I see no point in being anything other than honest with you,Salmon fishing in general in the UK as a whole is firmly on its arse!,I'd see no point in making a big trip, spending wads of cash and facing the reality of disappointment.Were I you,I'd look no further than the Big 4,Tay,Tweed,Spey or Dee(no particular order),they are less likely to be affected by lack of water and more easily fished if too much water, the fish running at that time should also be in your favour in that there at least should be some!,and certainly more than the smaller rivers.
Yes it will be big rods, big casts and big wades on big pools, get it right and the fish won't disappoint in size either!.
Face it, there's much that can go awry between now and falling out of the car on the morning of your fishing.Take the best shot at it you can get, get the odds and %ages firmly on your side!.
Feel free to ask, any time,Yorkie.
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sinktip, if I were you I wouldn't book anything in advance. Get familiarized with Fishpal and when it's nearer the time or when you're in Scotland, check the forcast, river levels, availability and go where you get a chance of hooking fish.
If you just want to be on the river for experience I would then recommend the Spey or the Dee. And one day on the Findhorn is a must, purely for the scenery alone...









With a bit of luck you may connect with one of these from the pool above.



There are also beats with easier access for those who don't like mountain goat territory.
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Thanks all. This has been very helpful.

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