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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 05-31-2018, 06:40 PM Thread Starter
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Matapedia / Glen Emma

I took the chance on the lottery last year and am headed to the Matapedia this weekend for four days of guided fishing. I have never fished any of the rivers in that part of the world before. I'm blissfully unaware of and do not need any info on secret spots, beats, boat ramps, or anything like that.

But, I would love to hear from anyone who has experience there at this time of year on what to expect in terms of tackle (heavy? lighter? Sinking? floating?), flows, fishing from a boat vs wading, etc.? Will my Ponoi Atlantic salmon flies work? Any steelhead flies I might choose to bring along? Thanks.

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You will most likely be fishing high water, with few, very big fish. Glen Emma is guided, and most probably you will be fishing from a canoe. The Matapedia is a fairly big river and early season (high water) generally means big flies. 1/0, 2/o, maybe even 3/0. Streamers are very popular early season (e.g. tiger ghost, and the likes). I would be using sinking tips, but the guides will be telling you what to use (many use floating exclusively, even early season). The classic salmon flies are generally the norm. Black bear green butt, the RATs, black dose, undertaker, blue charm, etc.... but anything could work (once again the guide will be suggesting what to tie on).

That's great water with some world renown pool! Good luck and have a great time!
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Glen Emma

Don't be shy with the big flies, including big Muddlers at dark. Anything that pulls this time of the season will be large, silver and strong.

I am up that way mid month...Kedgwick, Cold Spring, Larrys Gulch...counting the sleeps like a kid before Christmas!

Good luck...and let us know how you make out.

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We.re here and water is dropping dramatically . Had one tug on a long winged copper tube fly . Water temps Yesterday 47 F , today 50 F . Listiguj Band put nets in Yesterday and will stay in till Monday
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Thanks for the info guys, very interesting! Looking forward to it of course. I'm not a huge fan of fishing from the boat (some experience from the Ponoi a few years ago) but if that's the way they fish it, I can do that for a few days. I've been told to bring a good 9 weight and a stout 8 weight with backing and to be prepared to be skunked (no problem, I fish around Seattle). I'm just happy to see new water and the area too. I've also been told we will fish dawn to lunchtime and then again from mid-afternoon to dark with a break in the middle which sounds fine to me.
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You're fishing storied water at Glen Emma, and regardless of results count yourself fortunate. All part of Atlantic salmon fishing, and even if you're skunked the experience will be well worth your effort. Enjoy.
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Things dramatically picked up today
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Thanks for the info guys, very interesting! Looking forward to it of course. I'm not a huge fan of fishing from the boat (some experience from the Ponoi a few years ago) but if that's the way they fish it, I can do that for a few days. I've been told to bring a good 9 weight and a stout 8 weight with backing and to be prepared to be skunked (no problem, I fish around Seattle). I'm just happy to see new water and the area too. I've also been told we will fish dawn to lunchtime and then again from mid-afternoon to dark with a break in the middle which sounds fine to me.
Circlespey,
You may not be a fan of fishing from a boat, but those 24 to 26 foot Bonaventure canoes I've fished out of on the Petite Cascapedia River are a real treat. It is the only way to go on some of these big Canadian rivers. The Glen Emma/MacDonald stretches of the Matapedia are special places indeed. Enjoy...it is some of the finest Atlantic Salmon water on the planet!!
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Listiguj Band put nets in Yesterday and will stay in till Monday
This info that the band had nets in was completely false and WAS provided by the CGRMP office .I called David Leblanc yesterday and he said this wasn't true .He as going to call them and ask them NOT to spread false info . I will send them a strongly worded complaint as this is obviously Native bashing . I will CC the ASF and the Restigouche watershed office .
An agreement was signed last September to include this year and for 4 years .
They will not put any nets in until June 06 enabling the BIG females to run upstream
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Do you know how long the nets will stay in the water? I am on the river from 14th through 22nd...just wondering?

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Chris, the nets go in on every Wednesday at low tide and are lifted on low tide on Monday . This continues until the Grilse run
The Buoys that support the nets are there 24/7 and you can see them from the bluffs at Campbellton . Quite a few folk will see that and mistakenly proclaim that the nets are in 7 days a week .

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Doesnít sound like much conservation going on. Keeping the nets out until the grilse run would make more sense. How many do they need for ceremonial and sustanance fishery.
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Chris, the nets go in on every Wednesday at low tide and are lifted on low tide on Monday . This continues until the Grilse run
The Buoys that support the nets are there 24/7 and you can see them from the bluffs at Campbellton . Quite a few folk will see that and mistakenly proclaim that the nets are in 7 days a week .


So the nets go in on the Wednesdays and come out on the Mondays, may as well be seven days a week. I don't see how that's much of a good news story.
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Matapedia/Restigouche

Out of curiosity are the nets fully across the river/estuary? Do many fish make it through those 6 days or do they need to plan on Tuesdays to get upriver?

I've caught a few salmon there and occasionally they've had pretty nasty net marks and fin damage in the spring season so it seems like some get through.

It's a shame there isn't some kind of agreement that would benefit the Listiguj and make it worthwhile for them to abandon the practice. It seems like the Mi'kmaq's on the Cascapedia have figured it out although is seems there is a lot more money running through that Zec and river in general.
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