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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 02-23-2009, 02:38 AM Thread Starter
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Kola russia

Helo guys i am new on this forum, but i like it!

first i lived my whole live in the Netherlands and moved 2 years ago to hazelton bc! yes specially for the love of spey fishing.

Now i am going to kola russia in june. i would like to fish the kola river. does any body knows where to get a licence for the kola river?

i cant effort camps! so i do it my self.

i am also fishing chapoma, varzuga strelna etc. i fished there before and i caught just small salmon! any body caught big fish in the southern rivers of kola? if yes which rivers and wich time of the year.

any info/ help is welcome.

ps sorry for my english!

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 02-23-2009, 04:04 AM
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Hi,
Sorry for my english too...
The season is openning at the end of May - and if you're looking for a big salmon - that's the time. With the water level falling - sizes of the trophies are getting less as well. But good salmon are being cought in second half of June too.
Licences are selling in the villages and towns: Murmansk, Shonguy, Molochny on Kola river.
Me and my friends are going to Shonguy in the end of May and in the end of June. Trying to have fishing during high water and low water time. Of course the beginning of the season will depend on Spring weather and it may vary from one year to another.
BTW. in 27-28 of June there'll be a Festival of Fly Fishers in Shonguy with casting and fishing contests - so you can join us...
Good luck!
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Hi Ryb,

I will be fishing Varzuga River (6 days) and Kola River in Shonguy from May 30 till June 7th. Probably there would be some chances to meet there.

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Thanks

Thanks guys for the info!!
yes if you guys are there i like to meet you! have a beer/vodka a share some info!

il be there may 20 till july 8 so thats a long time! i like to fish lots of diffrent rivers!

ps did you caught big ones in the southern rivers?

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ps what kind of flies would you recommand?

cascades? big ally's shrimp?

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jerome,

theoreticly it is possible to catch 20 pounder, but most often fish are up to 10 pound, i would say 95% . I am talking about Varzuga , Chiavanga, Chiapoma, Strelna rivers. There is also Umba (was very good some 15 years ago) where 20+ was not a big deal. Not now...

reg flies works all kind of shrimps and clasic flies depend on water conditions. the higher/colder water te bigger flies here you are some info from best russian salmon site:
kola-salmon.ru/public/flies/stepflies/high_water_shrimp/index.htm
kola-salmon.ru/public/flies/stepflies/long_range_red_spring/red_spring.htm
kola-salmon.ru/public/flies/stepflies/kola_templedog/templedog.htm
kola-salmon.ru/public/flies/rflies/part_8.htm

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thanks

thanks roolis,
thats what i thougt! all the fish that i cought in the southern rivers were no bigger then 12 pounds! thats why i was curious if other spey fishers caught bigger ones!


so i have to focus on the kola river.

any tips? for the do it your selfer.

i have a aluminum boat with a new 25 jet engine. besides that i have also a raft with me.

any tips for some nice water on the kola river.
upper, middle or lower river?


thanks guys preciate it!
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jerome,hi,

slow down your horses. this is Russia , pls remember that.

As far I know for public fishing on Kola river there is only couple short stretches to fish near Shongui village and maybe somewhere else. Write a PM to Ryb he must know better. Dont think that you will be able to use your boat with engine almost 100 sure not allowed. Remember you will face many spin fishermen whish are not polite and you will see many poachers. Local flyfishing community tries to maintain the situation but the corruption and burocracy gets over all efforts. I wouldn’t be surprise if you don’t get licenses there one day , o wait 5 hours to buy it. law changes there evry year. but dont be affraid plan your trip

The best for you would be to cooperate with some local guys of from St. peterburg or from Moscow who speaks English and knows all small things about fishing in Kola river. remember there are more rivers worth to fish , but Kola river produce the biggest. One more thing - if you hook into one fish a day- this counts as a very good day there. If finally you will not get anybody to help you , write me a PM and i will help you out. With some contacts in Russia who speak english

here you are about one of my small adventures in northern Kola

globalflyfisher.com/reports/kola/

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My friend Sasa Savic, did a video from his fishing the Kola last year.

As you see him wading, you need to know that he is 6' 7".

Put in: Giant Russian Salmon

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Roolis, you're a little bit right concerning men with spins and (sometimes) poachers... But most of them stick to places where they once were lucky to land a fish - but moving down or up the river - and one can find free spot. A kind of this happened last year - some local places were overoccupied but the river is big enough for creative and hard thinking fisherman.
As for DIY trip - this is most popular for most of our fishermen : you can hire a flat, or stay in tent/car. Licenses are in stock all the day around with a small interval in the night. Of course there're constant changes in the country but I think the authorities would not apreciate to loose money from sale of liceneses - and they are sure to sell as much as they can(according to the limits).
A boat - is sure to be forbidden - just forget about that.
As for flies - there's a funny slogan: "Only avid fisherman(cann not find the right word for lucky starter) use that fly The Willie Gunn" . So WG is good enough... As for other flies the given links present the most popular flies for Kola river.
As for fish - last Spring(high water season) I was told the average size was about 20++/- pounds... Is it worth to try this Spring?
Hope to meet you guys! Closer to the Spring lets give each other our cell phone numbers I'd like to try my Snow Peak coffee pot in good company...
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Ryb, Thanks for invitation!

are you local (i mean from Murmansk area?) My friend Sergey Zanozin from Poliarnye Zori always says that kola is river to fish fish 20+++ some day i will come that is for sure. Now i have multy enter visa so i can do it whenever i have time.

Jerome, that was info for you- you are in a safe Ryb's hands now

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Thanks guys, but I'm not local....
So as for advices about right time, right places, right flies, tactics, etc - you'd better be answered by local guys - as Roolis's friend from Polarnie Zori or some other more confident...
But if you need smth - may be hiring a flat, sharing a coffee with me or smth else - I'll be glad to do my best...
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Ryb,

yours noted! SPASIBO

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The Fish In The Stamph River On Vancouver Island Will Be Bigger Up To 60 Lbs
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Atlantic Salmon

"The Fish In The Stamph River On Vancouver Island Will Be Bigger Up To 60 Lbs"

The discussion is about atlantic salmon, not kings in BC. Outside of the strays from aquaculture, there are no atlantics in BC.
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