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Hi,

think I will make the fishingtrip of my life next year. My idea is to fish the Miramichi for six days and then fly to the west to the Skeena-Region. The trip is planned for September, maybe October.

Now I am searching for a nice Lodge in both regions.
Does anyone has a tip for a nice Lodge in these areas?
Some are quite pricy like the Silver Hilton Lodge, anybody been there?

Thanks everyone for the help!

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BC trip thoughts

The first question that comes to mind for the western leg of your trip, is whether or not you want to go to the Hilton, yes I have been there, and spend a week on the Babine, (things could be worse) or, would you rather fish several rivers from a more central location?
Smithers, New Hazelton or Terrace, for example.
Another thought: Even if you choose the Silver Hilton, there is a reasonable
chance they are full during your time period.
If you want to do a fly in, find out which one has space available during your time in the region.
Eliminating this variable might help with your planning and decisions.
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Hi Michael,
good point! Maybe it makes more sence to choose something like the Z-Boat Lodge in Terrace, they offer fishing in some rivers. Ans Dana does his schools there, so the place must be good!


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On the Eastern end of your jaunt money might be a deciding issue, too. If money is not a big issue there are lots of quality lodges on the Main Southwest Miramichi. The one that I've been to that I rate the highest is Wilson's. Terrific new lodge, lots of quality guides (which is an issue throughout New Brunswick) and good private pools. If money is more of an issue, the Oxbow Adventures Lodge located on the Little Southwest, is a terrific option. At about half the price of most of the big lodges, it'll put you on private water on the Little SW, plus get you onto water on the Main SW, Northwest Miramichi, Sevogle, and sometimes even the Cains during the right time of the year. They also have a new lodge, great meals, including a full meal in the evening after fishing where many lodges offer only sandwiches and soup. The Oxbow is likely where I'll be during late June and early July. They also have several very good guides including perhaps the best woman guide I've used for Atlantic salmon fishing.
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Country Haven Lodge on the Miramichi

I have stayed at country haven a few time on the Miramichi. They have alot of water on the lower river, and several other runs all the way up to Doaktown.

They always do really well for the large salmon that run the lower river in autumn. Alot of these fish are heading for the Cains River.

The price for staying at Country have is pretty good.

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Hi everyone,

thanks for all the replys and tips - just great.

I a still in a "planning status" and am thinking about doing east Canada in one trip and west Canada in a second one. I guess this would make more sence.
So I am looking for a second destination in eastern Canada besides the Miramichi.

An exciting destination would be Newfoundland. But I don't know if fishing there in September is a good choice. Anybody been there in fall? And does anybody has any experience with guides (or lodges) over there? I have read, that it is easy to just book a hotel and take a guide for fishing.

A nice christmas time to all of you!

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The Gaspe Peninsula would also be a good choice. There was a sponsor on Spey Pages, Malbaie River Outfitters, that has been pretty good in the past and priced very reasonably. Depending on if they got the legal hassles of this past season out of the way, it could be a very good choice for September 2009. Regardless, a week on the Gaspe Peninsula and a week at Z Boat could be pretty intense. I say if you can do it, then do the two weeks. I subscribe to the "do it now, you could get hit by a bus" rationale. Air Connections through Montreal going both ways, mai oui!

BTW: with the economy the way it is, I am getting solicitations from all sorts of lodges for discounted trips as well as requests from individuals wanting to split weeks or sell their spots for 2009. If you are spending dollars, these $$ are spending a lot better than they were 6 months ago in the land of Molson and Crown Royal.

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I'd second the Gaspé option. Stay right in the town of Gaspé either at the Adam Hotel or Fort Ramsay Motel. One can book water at the ZEC office and not even have to have a guide, although several are available. You've missed a chance at the November draw for next year, but lots of good water is still available. You need to start pursuing things now, however. Waiting until next summer means you'll have far fewer choices as far as getting good water. Malbaie Outfitters is a good choice, too, but that area can be fished very effectively without staying at a lodge. There are several good restaurants right in Gaspé.
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Gaspe peninsula

The Gaspe is also known for it's music. If you're into that sort of thing. I understand the fiddlers have a style of their own.

Lee Wulff was big on Nova Scotia. 'Nuff said on that.

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Lee Wulff was big on Nova Scotia. 'Nuff said on that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was Newfoundland/Labrador that Lee wrote about so often. Both have good fishing, as does Nova Scotia at times. I know the Margaree is a famous autumn Atlantic salmon river, but I'm not as sure about the Newfoundland rivers. I know the Humber still has fish in September, but I'm not sure how fresh they are. The Upper Humber might be a good bet, though. Guides are required in Labrador and Newfoundland, but not in Nova Scotia. Also Labrador and Newfoundland require single, barbless hooks. You don't want to get caught accidentally using a fly you forgot to crimp the barb on as they treat that offense fairly harshly.
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Time for an easterner's point of view.

OK, I live in NS, and try my best to get to the rivers as often as I can depending upon work/home pressures. We have some great water, and the fabled Margaree has a cult-like following. My own experiences on that river are better in memory than reality. My opinion (2 cents), is that the river should have some restrictions on the number of anglers. Other than the crowds, it's a great spot with good opportunities.

I also fish in both Labrador and Quebec almost every year, and have really great contacts for information for both. Or at least know who to call to find someone who will know who to call...These are big areas, and each place has it's own specific information that you might want to be aware of before travelling.

Gaspe region has some great opportunities, and the rivers at the end of the tip are very reasonable from a cost perspective. The Grand and Petite Cascapedia, and the Bonaventure Rivers are all serviced by some very reputable lodges. You will pay..., but the service and quality of the experience is great. My concern with Autumn up there would be water conditions. I dumped a 4 day trip on private water after 1.5 days just a couple of years back due to this. Low water up there is not a guaranty, but it is a risk.

Newfoundland (not Labrador) has great angling on the Gander and the Humber during September. (This is information provided first hand not experienced myself). The Humber in particular will provide the chance at a "fish of a lifetime". True hogs are pulled from there each year. You do require a guide, and must crimp barbs, but the lower Humber is one of only a few spots in the world where a 40lb Atlantic might grab your fly!

I do not fish in NB regularly, and can not offer information for that province.
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On the Eastern end of your jaunt money might be a deciding issue, too. If money is not a big issue there are lots of quality lodges on the Main Southwest Miramichi. The one that I've been to that I rate the highest is Wilson's. Terrific new lodge, lots of quality guides (which is an issue throughout New Brunswick) and good private pools. If money is more of an issue, the Oxbow Adventures Lodge located on the Little Southwest, is a terrific option. At about half the price of most of the big lodges, it'll put you on private water on the Little SW, plus get you onto water on the Main SW, Northwest Miramichi, Sevogle, and sometimes even the Cains during the right time of the year. They also have a new lodge, great meals, including a full meal in the evening after fishing where many lodges offer only sandwiches and soup. The Oxbow is likely where I'll be during late June and early July. They also have several very good guides including perhaps the best woman guide I've used for Atlantic salmon fishing.
I'd echo JR's recommendation of the Gaspé. We booked our trip through Ann Smith of Quebec Sporting and stayed at the Motel Adams. We were very satisfied with accommodation and the organization.

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Upper Oxbow gets my vote. Great people, great value, great fishing.bw
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