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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-13-2008, 05:10 AM Thread Starter
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Best place to live and work????? (Mechanical Engineer with an MBA)

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I'll be getting my MBA soon, and Kansas sure is not cutting it for getting my fix of steelhead, salmon, or trout. Once I get my Masters degree done, I would like to relocate to another part os the US (I've already lived in Michigan - nice, but the economy sucks). Anyways, where can you recommend for good fishing (either the species listed above, or saltwater fishies), decent cost of living, and an engineering career? Currently I am in the aircraft industry, but would not mind switching to boating, defense, or hunting/fishing engineering careers? Any ideas? It seems to me like the PNW, FL, and east coast can be expensive (unless you can name some sleeper areas).

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-13-2008, 11:42 AM
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Southern Oregon (Medford area).

You have two major rivers in the immediate area, several huge snow fed lakes, snow skiing on Mt. Ashland, excellent schools, etc., and etc. JD can correct this but from his home in Central Point (north edge of Medford) it's 6.5'ish miles to the river.

But as for your 'competition on the river?' (This isn't exact, but close) If you took the combined population of Bellevue and Kirkland Washington .... you've got more people than we do in all of Jackson County.



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yeah, but,,,

For a mechanical engineer, the opportunities around here are somewhat limited. Like Erickson Air-Crane (Helicopters) and that's about it. Portland, Seattle would have more opportunities, but also more competition for river space. Mech eng, aircraft, defence, btdt. Pretty much locked into the big cities.

Now if you were in medical.....

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But as for your 'competition on the river?' (This isn't exact, but close) If you took the combined population of Bellevue and Kirkland Washington .... you've got more people than we do in all of Jackson County.
AND... more anglers in the Puget Sound area than in the entire state of Oregon... But the good news is, there must be at least 1/10000 fish per angler and the number of fish is shrinking as angler population grows.

Move over JD and Fred. You are gonna have company!

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The thing that drives this area is retirement income. Mostly California retirees. And the medical attention they require.

Yes, the river is here, but it's glory days, sad to say, are a thing of the past. Even five years ago, when I first moved up here, guys would be on the river at first light, before going to work. And they would be back on the river as soon as they got off work. It was frustrating having to time your casts between guide boats. Their clients fishing right through the run as though you wern't even there. No more.

Nowdays I can fish pretty much anywhere I want and not have to worry about someone beating me to my favorite run. I can fish all day and not see another boat on the river. And sleds? With the price of gas being what it is? Very few. But alas, it's really just casting practice.

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That's an easy one! " North to alaska" !



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I feel your pain of being a steelhead junkie living far away from steelhead water - I am in Hawaii! As I posted previously I did live in Portland, OR from 1988-90. Being a drummer in a rock and roll band brought me there and I loved it! Living in the Portland area is convenient because as far as large (to me) cities go, Portland is a pretty one. People are nice enough and I would imagine jobs of the type you are qualified for would be available. You have the Sandy, Clackamas and several other steelhead rivers close by. The Deschutes is only 2.5 hours away, coastal rivers an hour, and your options expand even more depending on how much windshield time you are willing to put in.

I have been visiting the Eugene/Springfield area the past couple years since my wife's sister and parents have moved there and I like it there too! You have the McKenzie and Willamette running through town which have synthetic spring/summer steelhead in them (they're not Bulkley chromers, but close to home). You are only two hours away from the Camp Water on the North Umpqua. Again, I would think your kind of job would available there too?

Just my thoughts.
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Gents,

I'll be getting my MBA soon, and Kansas sure is not cutting it for getting my fix of steelhead, salmon, or trout. Once I get my Masters degree done, I would like to relocate to another part os the US (I've already lived in Michigan - nice, but the economy sucks). Anyways, where can you recommend for good fishing (either the species listed above, or saltwater fishies), decent cost of living, and an engineering career? Currently I am in the aircraft industry, but would not mind switching to boating, defense, or hunting/fishing engineering careers? Any ideas? It seems to me like the PNW, FL, and east coast can be expensive (unless you can name some sleeper areas).

Thanks!

With a glut of new housing, the housing market in Sac is ripe for buyers.

There is a lot of industry in the area. Heavy duty construction management seems to run counter of the rest of the construction industry. At this time many of the heavy construction companies can't find enough skill manpower to even bid on jobs.

In Sac., you have the American River which runs into the Sac River. There is shad fishing, steelhead and no one knows about the fall/winter salmon with our current no Salmon fishing in California.

A few hours up I 5 and some pretty mountains, you can fish the Trinity River which might have been the best Steelhead river on the west coast this past season.

A couple of hours past the Trinity is the Eel river complex. Guys and gals who were able to spend a night or two hammered the big Eel River steelhead last season.

An hour or so north, you can be fishing the Yuba River and the Feather River.

Medford and the upper/middle Rogue is maybe 6 hours away.

A couple of hours driving east on I 80 you can be in some good waters like the Truckee River near the Nevada border.

An hour or so driving ESE, you can be in the Delta for some incredible Striped Bass and LMB fishing.

Buy a Hobie Mirage Outback Kayak with the built in pedal/kick fins, and you can fish areas that most of us can't. A good one man pontoon craft opens up a lot of water to fish.

When you can afford a Jet Boat get one with the weed catcher/slicer/dicer to keep weeds out of the jet That opens up a lot fishing on the Sac, American and Delta.

Drive about 3-4 hours to the Monterey Bay for some of the best inland ocean fly fishing on the west coast.

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Take a serious look at Alaska. Our one day weir counts are more than entire season counts in the Pacific Northwest rivers. Didn't I just read in in a Trout Unlimited magazine that the Snake River had a run last year of four sockeye salmon? Amazing. Right now the nearest river is four reds per day and may go up. After you get your four, trout fish for some hours with none under 24", and then go catch a King to finish the day. Limit on kings is one/day. Six coho/day and I don't recall a limit on pinks and dogs although nobody eats them (except dogs). Grayling are fun, Dolly Varden, lake trout, and artic char round out the majority of the fresh water fun. Then there is saltwater. I've caught ling cod, rock fish and halibut on a fly here. Lots of fun. Oh, people also fly fish for salmon sharks but I have not. If you can't eat it, I don't fish for it (trout excluded).

Fed, State, City, military, Native Corporations, private sector are all hiring in your field. Maybe you have not heard, but we're putting in a gas pipeline to match the oil one we have. A Masters is no big deal though. A lot of education and experience up here. The housing market is still fairly strong, again, different than what everyone is seeing in the lower 48. The weather is great as long as you enjoy snow mobiles, downhill, hockey, cross country skiing, snowshoeing, etc. The winter can be rough if you don't like the winter sports. Despite urban legend, the population is 51% male and 49% female.

There is a lot of information on the internet. Let your fingers do the walking. If you were okay with Michingan winters, Anchorage is no big deal. It is a magical place full of adventure, and of course, many and big fish. The pressures on rivers outside have killed them. Water diversion, over fishing by commercial interests, dams, chemicals, erosion, and recreational fishing pressure. Well, hopefully, we have learned from what has happened "outside".

Good luck in school. Finish there first then get serious of a job. At least one masters, if not two. Hope this provided some thinking for you...
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Take a serious look at Alaska. Our one day weir counts are more than entire season counts in the Pacific Northwest rivers. Didn't I just read in in a Trout Unlimited magazine that the Snake River had a run last year of four sockeye salmon? Amazing. Right now the nearest river is four reds per day and may go up. After you get your four, trout fish for some hours with none under 24", and then go catch a King to finish the day. Limit on kings is one/day. Six coho/day and I don't recall a limit on pinks and dogs although nobody eats them (except dogs). Grayling are fun, Dolly Varden, lake trout, and artic char round out the majority of the fresh water fun. Then there is saltwater. I've caught ling cod, rock fish and halibut on a fly here. Lots of fun. Oh, people also fly fish for salmon sharks but I have not. If you can't eat it, I don't fish for it (trout excluded).

Fed, State, City, military, Native Corporations, private sector are all hiring in your field. Maybe you have not heard, but we're putting in a gas pipeline to match the oil one we have. A Masters is no big deal though. A lot of education and experience up here. The housing market is still fairly strong, again, different than what everyone is seeing in the lower 48. The weather is great as long as you enjoy snow mobiles, downhill, hockey, cross country skiing, snowshoeing, etc. The winter can be rough if you don't like the winter sports. Despite urban legend, the population is 51% male and 49% female.

There is a lot of information on the internet. Let your fingers do the walking. If you were okay with Michingan winters, Anchorage is no big deal. It is a magical place full of adventure, and of course, many and big fish. The pressures on rivers outside have killed them. Water diversion, over fishing by commercial interests, dams, chemicals, erosion, and recreational fishing pressure. Well, hopefully, we have learned from what has happened "outside".

Good luck in school. Finish there first then get serious of a job. At least one masters, if not two. Hope this provided some thinking for you...
Do you have any contacts I can talk to? Headhunters? Or should I call the Chamber of Commerce? Alaska does sound tempting.
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