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WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
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March 27, 2008
Contact: Bill Freymond, (360) 249-1225

Hoh River will close to protect wild steelhead

OLYMPIA - The Hoh River and the South Fork Hoh River on the north coast of the Olympic Peninsula will close to all sport fishing April 3 to protect wild steelhead, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) announced today.

The closure will take place at 12:01 a.m. on April 3 and the rivers will not re-open through the remainder of the season. The Olympic National Park also will close portions of the two rivers that lie within the park's boundary.

The fishery closure is needed to meet the wild steelhead spawning escapement goal of 2,400 fish, said Bill Freymond, WDFW regional fish manager.

Other rivers regulated by WDFW on the Olympic Peninsula will remain open for fishing as listed in the WDFW 2007-08 Fishing in Washington pamphlet http://wdfw.wa.gov/fish/regs/fishregs.htm . Information on other fishing opportunities within Olympic National Park is available at http://www.nps.gov/olym/fishing.htm .

Fishing on the Hoh and South Fork Hoh rivers had been scheduled through April 15. Future regulations will be announced later this spring when WDFW's new 2008-09 Fishing in Washington pamphlet is published, Freymond said.
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 03-28-2008, 06:29 PM
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This really is not all that unexpected. The Hoh hasn't been making excapement for most of the last 12 seasons and it gets a lot of pressure because of its floatability and size. Plus, it is one of the few rivers that and angler is allowed to retain a wild steelhead from to make his one wild steelhead/year limit. Perhaps, some of the Forks contigent that fought the C&R on all wild steelhead will wake up and realize that all is not as rosy as they like to think.
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Don't Mind Closings ... IF

I agree with the closings but I would like to see that the act of closing a river to protect the fish is accompanied by well thought out plans to restore the WILD runs. Make it all C & R ... stop the netting in the rivers ... restrict development further on the watershed ... remove dams ... stop artificial predatation opportunities ... remove hatcheries ...stop gene dilution ... add structure to the river ... even stop ALL fishing ... whatever it takes. It seems that that the "powers that be" just close the river in hopes of increasing escapement at the last minute. I'm wishing that the state would be more proactive for the fish before it gets to this point. Closing the river is a sign of poor management over the years that allowed the runs to decline and not taking the necessary actions to protect and allow the fish to do what they do best when unharmed by our current "management".

Sorry for the mini rant ... the future of the fish in Washington State concerns me ...

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Wow, really. Who would have thunk it.

Is it just me or does
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The Hoh hasn't been making excapement for most of the last 12 seasons
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it is one of the few rivers that and angler is allowed to retain a wild steelhead
seem like two phrases that should never be linked in the same sentence?

Way to go WDFW, since you haven't been listening to what we have been telling you since 2000, I'm glad you finally pulled the crap out of your ears.


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The WDFW isn't about savign wild fish that has been proven by their actions time and time again. Many of us have been saying that the river should have been closed for awhile. But even though it wasn't making escapement is was a jewel and is one of the healthy rivers according to the WDFW. Does that tell you anything about the WDFW management.

If I had the sucess at my job that the WDFW had at their job managing wild steelhead I am pretty sure I would not have that job anymore. But the WDFW management get rewarded.

I am going to learn to fly fish for tiger muskie now as maybe I will be able to fish for them for awhile.

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I'll delurk for this one, as I was stunned today to hear that a WDFW biologist admitted that they should have NEVER opened the Skagit system this year, but they delayed the decision until it was too late for them close it without drawing criticism.

So who do they "throw under the bus" for their inept bungling?? The fish, of course!!!

I've hardly fished for steelhead this spring. My heart just isn't in chasing the few lucky nates that make it back to their home gravel.

Hey JJ - I'll see ya on Mayfield!

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Double Spey has stated my underlying theme as of late regarding fishing Steelheads here on ther OP!

"My heart just isn't in chasing the few...."

Still I will probably venture out and see what is left the last few days that are available.
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Cool Back from the Hoh...

Just got back last night from out there, and the Hoh was in very good shape. I was out there since Thursday and a number of the guys in our group were out all week. It was cold, so despite the rain, it stayed in great shape!

Fishing was slow, but there were fish caught and quite a few people out there. I met a number of people from New York and a guy from Utah.

I'm happy if it protects the fish! There was a red nearby our camp at Oxbow and we watched more than a few anglers target the hen protecting her eggs. Very sad, since it was so obvious.

Get out there while you can, if you can... Careful on the roads though, the snow, hail and ice are out there and I heard that there was a nasty roll over accident about 8 miles south of Forks a few days ago. I don't know how bad the driver and any passengers were hurt, but know they were taken away in an ambulance.

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Doublespey also shares my thoughts on the Skagit system. I ventured up last week to poke around but was feeling like I shouldn't be there. I'm supposed to be up there tomorrow but my heart isn't in it.

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just remember that the tribe will continue to fish after the closure under c&S (ceremonial and subsistence) because one of the tribal members built a big brand new smoker.

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Angry Indians + a Safeway Contract for Wild Steelhead is deadly

When fishing the Hoh on 6 - 7 Feb, my guide advised me that the Quiliute tribe has a barter agreement with the tribe which has the big casino on I-5 north of Everett. That tribe has a contract with Safeway for 25tons of steelhead (IIRC) per year to be sold nationwide, but they have no fish. The Quiliute tribe then set up a barter agreement with the tribe with the contract and we are now all screwed as it the Hoh, Sol Duc, and the Bogy.

A friend of mine in Boston told me that he had purchased some wild steelhead at his safeway, and I said nah...impossible...BOY was I ever wrong!!!
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Taft,

I must point out that the Quilleute Tribe does not have fishing rights on the Hoh, so it cannot fish it. The Hoh Tribe is the one with fishing rights on the Hoh.
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That's really scary...

I cooked for a number of years in nice restaurants. My last gig was at the Oyster Bar on Chuckanut drive, south of Bellingham, as their lead line cook. Since then, I've seen a substantial shift in the 'food IQ' of the average person. You can credit Home & Garden TV, the Food Network, print & online publications, etc... for delivering the masses. The shift towards the use of 'premium' ingredients has been broad-based and pretty dramatic in it's scope. Instead of frozen peas, it's fresh peas w/ shoots, tendrils, blossoms, etc... Instead of salmon, it's copper river salmon. The crowd that's buying wild steelhead now, likely didn't even know what it was 10yrs ago. The fact that it is in limited supply and seemingly new & exotic, the fact that it's the product of a tribal fishery adds to it's value now. Small producers are in. The buying power of these new 'food snobs' is off the charts. 10yrs ago, I was shaving truffels into sauces, steaming shellfish in pricy Sauterns, and watching people shell out $50-$100 for a SINGLE glass of 100yr old port. The number of people who have shifted into the set that appreciates fine food and doesn't flinch at prices, blows my mind. Some of these trends are SCARY.
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Taft,
How about forwarding the contact information of your guide to the Wild Steelhead Coalition and the Native Fish Society for them to gather more details and address Safeway's involvment.

I'll swing by my local Safeway and see what's going on here.
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