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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-03-2016, 11:00 PM Thread Starter
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Scotland Sept 2017 Ideas

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Curious to get some recommendations on Sept 2017 Salmon fishing in Scotland. My wife has proposed a trip there and I am going to get at least a couple days of fishing in. Right now we're leaning towards something like Castle Gordon on the Spey since that looks like a pretty awesome place to stay and we'd be about an hour from both Inverness and Aberdeen. Any other rivers/areas we should consider?

It's a little overwhelming to look at all the different rivers without ever having been there. The main goals are that we stay in an area with a lot of interesting things to do/see and get some fishing in.

Took a look at the Ness and Dee, but as I said, a little lost. Appreciate any insight that you guys have. Thanks!
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In September I would look at fishing the Ness, at either Dochfor, or Ness side, you also got the town water in Inverness.
For the Spey most fish will be stale. You will have a chance of clean fish down the bottom of the river at Gordon Castle, and the Brae water.
Fishpal is the place to buy. Your fishing online. Look for a system that has just had rain.
Any help send me a pm.
I'm in BC at moment, back home end Oct
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In September I would look at fishing the Ness, at either Dochfor, or Ness side, you also got the town water in Inverness.
For the Spey most fish will be stale. You will have a chance of clean fish down the bottom of the river at Gordon Castle, and the Brae water.
Fishpal is the place to buy. Your fishing online. Look for a system that has just had rain.
Any help send me a pm.
I'm in BC at moment, back home end Oct
Thank you for the info. PM sent.
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post #4 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-09-2016, 06:07 PM
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Be brave and do not book any fishing until you are in Scotland. Fresh run September salmon have been a rarity in Scotland in the last couple of years. Therefore, to maximise your chances, try and book your fishing on a river where a rise in water has moved the fish around, thereby greatly improving your chances of a fish or two.
The prime time on the Brae/Gordon Castle beats used to be in August and September. May-July now appear to be much better.
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I suggest you take an interpreter who fishes, I'm available...
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Lower Dee in September can be fantastic and lots to see and do in Royal Deeside, personally I love Park and Ballogie. Fishpal is the best source of info aside from this forum!
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Be brave and do not book any fishing until you are in Scotland. Fresh run September salmon have been a rarity in Scotland in the last couple of years. Therefore, to maximise your chances, try and book your fishing on a river where a rise in water has moved the fish around, thereby greatly improving your chances of a fish or two.
The prime time on the Brae/Gordon Castle beats used to be in August and September. May-July now appear to be much better.
Ha this is going to be really hard for me! Thank you for the advice. Need to fight my compulsion to plan it all out. I have this fear of not being able to find any available beats, but it sounds like that scenario is unlikely?
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Also wanted to thank everyone for the help so far. Sounds like that focusing on the Ness, but being flexible with it until we get there is the way to go. Last question: Rod-wise, I assume a 13ft 6wt spey would not be enough rod? Should I get something like a 7 or 8 weight? Hesitant to go much larger than that since it will be tough to use around home. Appreciate the help.
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Terence -

Don't hesitate getting a 7/8! It just means you'll be compelled to search for more rivers in which larger fish call home!!

I'm heading over in August 2017 to compete in the World Pipe Band Championships in Glasgow, and plan to do the same as was recommended - wait until I get there, check the conditions, then find the beats that have openings.

Who knows.............?

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Hey Terence, like Scotsmac suggested the Ness side is a great beat with a young ghillie that took over from Scott MacKenzie after he moved on. He works tirelessly for the the clients and you'll be pretty hard pressed to find a nicer fishing hut....although they do exist depending on how things are while you're there I would look at the Findhorn as well. Just keep looking at Fish pal.
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About a month until the trip! I wanted to check in and see if any recommendations had changed based on how the fishing has been this summer. I have booked a day on the Ness (Dochfour) the week of Sept 4th already since it is very close to where my wife and I will be staying, but still have another day to play with (likely Sept 6). Please let me know what you guys think. I can book now or wait longer if that is still the recommendation. Appreciate the insight and look forward to hearing how the fishing has been! Thank you.

Edit: We decided to stay by Inverness for the week if that affects things.

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I just took a look on Fishpal &, at present, during the week you mention there is a single rod left on Thursday 7th Sept on Park beat on the Lower Dee.

This is the most productive time on what is a lovely beat to fish & the Dee is one of the Classic big 4 Scottish salmon rivers; also some sizeable fish should be running then with the chance of a 20 pounder turning up.

It won't be available for long though at that time of year.

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I just took a look on Fishpal &, at present, during the week you mention there is a single rod left on Thursday 7th Sept on Park beat on the Lower Dee.

This is the most productive time on what is a lovely beat to fish & the Dee is one of the Classic big 4 Scottish salmon rivers; also some sizeable fish should be running then with the chance of a 20 pounder turning up.

It won't be available for long though at that time of year.

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Sadly we will be staying by Inverness so I think that might be a tough one to pull off purely due to distance. Really wish that wasn't the case though.
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Terence this was all a long time ago but my wife's father was from Scotland.....In the 70's my wife and I along with our kids made several trips to Scotland accompanying her father and mother. We did a lot of touring around but always planned to stay a week in Muir of Ord north of Inverness , while there I would buy day tickets to fish the Connan and the Beauly rivers. Small flies 10 and 12 doubles did the trick best one being the Stoats Tail. Your 13' 6 weight will do fine on these rivers. September in Scotland is barley harvesting month for the distilleries, after the fields are cut flocks of blue gray wood pigeons descend to feed, they make great shooting if you enjoy that and they are delicious also, there is a butcher in Strathpeffer not far from Muir of Ord, he made fresh Haggis every Wednesday and you had to get there early because it sold out quick.....boil it up with fresh turnip, chase it with cold six pack of Dark McEwans Export and then some good single malt neat for dessert . On the way to the river Stop at Forbes in Muir of Ord for coffee and and their fresh baked oat cakes. As I said, a long tome ago but I think that part of Scotland is lost in the ages hopefully it hasn't changed to much and you will love it.
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Yes it's a 2 to 2.5 hour drive as the roads are scenic, but not fast!

The Deveron (which is closer) can be worth a look in September, especially if you can get on the lower river from the Turiff area to the sea - but unfortunately this is not as good as it once was but can still produce very large fish, including the U.K. Fly caught record of 61 lbs. Whilst this was many years ago a friend of mine caught a 43 pounder there on a fly since the millennium.

A contact for fishing on the Deveron is Frank Henderson of Hendersons Country Sports: Henderson's Country Sports
If you contact him he can provide advice on availability & the suitability of any fishing available to suit your needs.

If you can't find something to suit then don't ignore the Grantown Association water on the Spey, this isn't too far to drive & can produce decent numbers of fish at that time of year; prices are also quite reasonable & day tickets are available. There is very nice water - but take a wading staff as the Spey can be "interesting" to wade, especially if you are unfamiliar with it.

Hope you enjoy it.

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