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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-27-2015, 04:54 PM Thread Starter
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Some members here probably already know me from fishing the Great Lakes tribs and even BC. Thing is I am moving to Montreal in January and I will miss some of the the good swing waters we have here for fall/winter steelhead. I have been doing some research on swing waters close to Montreal but all that I find are the opportunities in NY state like the Salmon River and some tribs of lake Champlain. I wonder if someone could help me out to find good swing water around Montreal, on the Canadian side. I fished Lachine Rapids before but I think now it is mostly a warm water fishery (I haven't heard about browns been caught there in years...). I don't mind getting some pike and Bass on the double handed as well, but I am not a huge fun of still water, gotta be on a nice clean river or stream. Anyways, I am excited to discover new water and wouldn't mind sharing my knowledge of Ontario for those who share with me some spots around Montreal.

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-28-2015, 01:54 AM
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Around the islands that make up the greater Montreal area there are various decent swing waters but not clean. A wide variety of species available but all warm water fare.

The Saranac and Boquet are great in NY and the Salmon in Pulaski is good if you go to the controlled fly fishing beats. Otherwise too crowded to swing even a 40 foot radius. There is also the Salmon in Malone NY.

The lower sections of the Diable in mont Tremblant and the Rouge in and below Harrington down to its mouth with the Ottawa river can offer big enough water for warm species and trout but in relatively nice rivers.

The Chateauguay river starting in NY runs through Powerscourt and Athelston for some nice browns that are fussy but more of a 5wt and under river.

There are a few good rivers out towards Quebec City and Trois-Rivieres but I don't know them well ( yet to explore ).

You can check out the Nicolet and some sections of rivière du Nord could be swung near st Jerome.

You won't find anadromous runs anywhere unless you drive 7 hours out to the Matane or st John or better yet the Gaspe.

If your fixing on anywhere in particular following your research, shoot me a pm and I'll give you what details I know of where you are heading and if I know the river well, I'll join you

Considering our mayor just dumped a few million tons of sewage into the st Lawrence, a lot of anglers have been turned off. There is an American shad run on the north side of the island in the spring but it's really crowded. There is also st. Anne de Bellevue that can be waded and swung at low-water conditions. The lachine Rapids as well as the bird sanctuary island offer some swing areas as well and I'm sure there are plenty of other spots I haven't discovered yet.

I always have this distaste for fishing the st Lawrence however last three seasons I've given it a few more chances and had some surprises.

There is also another part in lasalle with some decent access that could be swung, and there's a nice little section near my house in pierrefonds that has plenty of action in the high summer months.
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There are MANY pollutants being drained in the st.Lawrence & great lakes systems all the time. Unfortunately, a big spotlight has shined on montreal recently. Putting the politics aside and if you give the warm water species a chance, you will find some kind of swinging water around the island that is "clean"enough to wade in and swing a fly. It is an island and opportunities are very close by.
Small mouth, pike, musky, gar, walleye, sheepshead, mooneye, carp, and shad can all be caught with flies.
Sight fishing for gar can be exciting and frustrating.
The shad run can be explosive.
Smallies are everywhere.
Huge hatches can sometimes make the water boil.
For "nice clean streams", you will have to drive further for 2 handed opportunities. But there are many "clean" salmon and trout rivers within a 7 hour drive radius and some within 4 hours.
As for the chateauguay , it is better suited for a single hander. A big spring thaw can be an exception, but they are getting rarer every year. Also, way less trout on the Canadian side than in the past.
Diable is also better suited for a single hander.
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post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-28-2015, 09:50 AM Thread Starter
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Eh, thanks very much guys. This is a lot of water to explorer. We keep in touch!

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All the above are good advise . There's also Point des Cascades (I've provided a pic ) A nice run and you'll usually have it all to yourself.
The "flats' at Cote Ste Catherine park are probably the best spot in the Lachine rapids for fishing
The 2nd jpg shows Cote Ste Catherine park the black pen area is good wading in low water conditions . DO NOT venture near the red marked area There's a sink hole there that can't be seen due to the weeds . I was guided near it and we watched until all of a sudden a whirlpool appeared and ,well, it was the scariest thing I've ever witnessed while fishing . Still gives me the creeps to this day . The blue area designates the Sturgeon trough . About 50 ft from shore and just downstream from the Kaniwake fence . Full sinking lines 30 lb leaders and "fly" 3/0 hook with red WD40 soaked rag attached .
I too live in Pierrefonds and can leave my driveway and within a few hours drive have excellent Landlocked fishing
the Chaudière River out of Lac Megantic has a few LL's near the lake and excellent Brown trout fishing downstream
The St Maurice has some good Brown and Rainbow trout fishing There's a St Maurice river restoration group that a has a great map
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Oh yes. Wear a flotation vest if fishing the Lachine rapids. It is mandatory.
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Hello,

Some members here probably already know me from fishing the Great Lakes tribs and even BC. Thing is I am moving to Montreal in January and I will miss some of the the good swing waters we have here for fall/winter steelhead. I have been doing some research on swing waters close to Montreal but all that I find are the opportunities in NY state like the Salmon River and some tribs of lake Champlain. I wonder if someone could help me out to find good swing water around Montreal, on the Canadian side. I fished Lachine Rapids before but I think now it is mostly a warm water fishery (I haven't heard about browns been caught there in years...). I don't mind getting some pike and Bass on the double handed as well, but I am not a huge fun of still water, gotta be on a nice clean river or stream. Anyways, I am excited to discover new water and wouldn't mind sharing my knowledge of Ontario for those who share with me some spots around Montreal.

Cheers!
First of all, congratulations Montreal is a great city. Incredible food lots of arts/music and if you happen to be single, plenty of opportunity to meet new people

I'm located in Vermont and if you'd like to come down I'd be happy to show you some decent big trout swing rivers that are clean. The pollution in the st Lawrence is real bad. But there are great opportunities and a fantastic group of Spey men located in your area that travel and make great videos.

The Atlantic rivers have public access in areas and if you really want some giant Brookies you can just head East

Maine has some fantastic landlocked salmon especially since they are removing damns like the Penobscot spring smelt run, Maine has some supposedly decent sea Browns ( try the NHflyfishingforum.com reports)

Quebec you'll find has an air of pride unlike any other Canadian province. You'll like it or hate it. We all feel both at times

Enjoy the experience and have fun on your great adventure!

Get some really good cold weather gear!! January can be brutal but so far this year it's been easy sailing weather wise
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Thank you guys! I am really glad with all the positive answers. Eh James, it is exactly that cultural aspect of the city that makes me feel so excited to move there!
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I used to fish Cote St Catherine a fair bit in the late 90's when the brown and rainbow trout stocking was still happening. Great swinging water in spots. I was shown the path to wade way out from shore. Can't believe it now, but we did it without floatation devices. One slip, and they they'll find your corpse out in the gulf. Besides trout, we would catch bass, sheepshead, mooneye, and all sorts of other fish. Back then, when the pacific salmon populations in Lake Ontario were high, the odd chinook and coho was caught from that area too (they'd travel down from Lake O a I guess).

At that time we also fished the Ausable in upstate NY pretty regularly on the shoulders of the seasons for the rubber browns. 2 hour drive from Montreal. Fall was particularly good as the river was largely empty of anglers, and the BWO hatches were great in October through November. Also a great time to bang the banks with large streamers. Less pressured in that area, but with some great fishing if you're willing to hike with a float tube are a bunch of stocked ponds. Check with one of the local flyshops like the hungry trout for locations. Don't know how the Chazy river fishes these days (it's closer to the border). Dust off your single hander for these waters.
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Thanks, man, I will be checking these spots out for sure. And I do enjoy traditional trout fishing on a single handed, matching hatches and so on!
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Devils river in mont tremblant is nice but you need a light single hander. Ive fished it once and its quite fun. Ive fished the salmon river NY many times and ive never had trouble finding a run to myself from november all the way to spring. You just need to walk abit and avoid upriver in altmar and the fly zones. Thats as much as i know about that area though.
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Riviere Shawinigan and St Maurice

I forgot to mention the Riviere Shawinigan .It flows into the St. Maurice Stocked with Browns and Rainbows by these guys
visionst-maurice.org The Shawinigan is a nice little, overlooked by most, river to fish with either a SH or light DH rod The St. Maurice I a big heavily shouldered river The jpg's show maps of both rivers
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Thank you very much for this last imput, Salar. We keep in contact!
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Hey look at all that fishing! Next time my wife tries to drag me out there to visit my father in law maybe I won't fight so hard, the food is always so good anyways.
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Best food that I had in Canada here, man, that's for sure!
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