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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-13-2015, 11:01 PM Thread Starter
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Well my wife has just informed me we are packing up the kids and heading to Scotland next summer for a little vacation. It looks like we will be there in late July / early August. Can anyone point me in the direction of a good quality salmon outfitter / guides. I've been told I can "disappear" for three days and want to make the most of it.

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What part of Scotland?
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check out fishpal and the salmonfishingforum dot com.

I will give you the advice I always give visitors to Scottish waters - most are spate rivers and heavily water dependent, so don't book in advance and be mobile & flexible.

you can pay $5,000 for a week and have no water and see no fish, all week. whereas a 100 miles away on day ticket water they can be cranking em in.

This is some advice I dished out on here last spring :

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the first two weeks of June are prime time. especially if there is rain.

if you are in the Perth Area at all, The Newtyle fishings on the Tay are said to be outstanding, and are on my bucket list - i have fished the Tummel above Pitlochry though, nice water. good trout and grayling there too.

further north - i would fish the Spey river, due to its history and scenery - with the peaks of Aviemore in the background its very picturesque.

contrary to popular belief, day tickets are available on most scottish salmon rivers (and Irish ones) as local associations hold fishing rights - in this case the Strath Spey association :

Membership, permits, rules of the club.

that site shows that day tickets have access to 4 miles of double bank fishing (so 8 miles of water) plus weekly tickets have access to the most famous salmon fishing beat in the world - Upper Castle Grant.

imho the $300 or so weekly ticket is worth it just to fish that 2 mile beat.

i fished it in the 80's with my dad and i still treasure the memories of that day - we had no idea where we were going when we paid ten pounds in the newsagent in Grantown that morning....

that site will also point you to fish pal.

fish pal is the salmon fishers best friend - it lists daily all the salmon beats available in the UK, and you can pay online the night before or same day and go fish.

this is brilliant when the rivers are high or low - there is always somewhere fishable as long as you have a car:

http://www.fishpal.com/SearchResults.asp?dom=Pal

like anywhere in Ireland or Scotland, the locals always know what the fishing is like - ask in the pub, newsagents or ironmongers/hardware store.

if the rivers are in true drought or flood, you can always head to the lochs - lochy, Ness, Broom etc and hire a boatman or fish the inlets outlets etc.

also, ignore the purists - plenty plenty of salmon are caught on big devon minnows spinning each year, so if the small ally's GP's etc are not working, break out the sink tips and large tubes, needles etc - sunray shadows, dee monkeys, scandinavian tube flies etc.

all of which you can fish on a switch rod if you want - though i'd suggest taking a switch and a spey rod too.

all the very best for your trip.

Mark.

all of the above applies for July/August but more so, as that time of year can be very dry or flooded out.

I'd also add to not rule out sea trout fishing in the estuaries if rivers are low - you can pick up salmon too. you can catch them during the day but the real beasts will likely be at night - fish to 18lbs are not uncommon, even in creeks you could cast across.

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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-15-2015, 09:22 PM Thread Starter
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Hi Guys, I will be based in Inverness but am willing to travel a fair distance should it be required.

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The Inverness Angling Club water on the lower reaches of the Ness is quite nice especially if you like big broad searching runs. In addition it is incredibly cheap by Scotland salmon fishing standards. You can buy weekly and daily tickets at Graham's, the local fishing shop.
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Hi Guys, I will be based in Inverness but am willing to travel a fair distance should it be required.

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no need, the spey at Grantown is 35 miles away.

you are in salmon fishing central - findhorn is 20 mins away, as is the ness, and other smaller rivers, the beauly, carron etc are not much further.

Tay & Tummel are about 90mins to 2hrs.

if you want an interesting hotel in inverness with a fair bit of (bloody) history try Kingsmills Hotel. it was built in the 1600's.

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I would second considering the Spey in that area at that time of year.

Grantown Association offers affordable fishing on Association water, & they have quite a bit of it including some really lovely pools to fish.

The wading can be "interesting" [there's a reason why the Sharpe's Spey wading staff is the most heavily weighted of the range!] so take some good felt/ studded soled boots [& a proper wading staff].

Also at that time the sea trout [sea run browns] should be running so take a 9'6" - 10'6" #7 wt single hander & a floater & fast intermediate or a multi-tip line & some wee doubles & small sparsely dressed tubes [1" Slipstream aluminium tubes for example] & small trebles to go in the back [#14s] & fish on from dusk to midnight; this can be very exciting sport.

Grantown Association have a website with information / costs etc.

Also if you want private beats [a lot more expensive] then there are some Speybeats on fish pal, but not many, however try contacting Mortimer's tackle shop in Grantown & they may know of or let some available fishing.

Lower down river gets pricier but there are some beautiful beats such as Tulcan, Rothes, Easter Elchies or, if you win the Lottery, Delfur [but it would probably be fully booked anyway].

If you do secure fishing lower down then Aberlour isn't a bad place to base yourself - & allow an extra day for a tour of some of the distilleries!

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I'll 'third' the Spey at Grantown (if you can't find anything open for a private beat) on their association water. You will have to reside in Grantown to get the pass and I would suggest purchasing the week option (even if you don't intend on fishing the entire time) so you can access the lower pools (former Castle Grant section that was bought by the association).

If I were forced to fish a single river for the rest of my fishing days I would choose River Spey.
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Some good suggestions in the posts above. On the Spey, Grantown will give you a long stretch of varied water, but does require you to stay in the area. There are other sections of association water on the Spey, the Aberlour beat does not require you to stay in the village and can be productive at times, it is a much shorter beat though. There are also association beats at the bottom of the river at Fochabers and Garmouth, these can fish well if the water levels are low. That would generally be the case on the Spey, if the water level is low, look to the lower beats and in a wet summer the higher beats such as Grantown will fish well. There will also be some access to the private beats, check FishPal or the Spey Fishery Board webpage. The Ness can be a good option at that time of the year, there is the association water in Inverness itself and a short distance outside Inverness, you have beats such as Ness Castle where Gordon Armstrong is the gillie, it sometimes has availability at that time of the year and had a much better season this year. On the Findhorn at Forres there is a superb stretch of association water, which can fish really well in low to medium water.
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Thanks to all for sharing your knowledge so openly, it is very much appreciated and very generous of you.

Perhaps I will have to tell my wife that we should extend the trip to three weeks.
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