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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-25-2015, 05:27 PM Thread Starter
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Will be in Toronto on 9/14 and 15 and will be able to fish both days. Was looking at maybe the Grand on Sunday and Credit on Monday. Looking for any advice on either or any alternatives. Trying to stay within an hour of downtown Toronto. Any suggestions, tips, local knowledge would be greatly appreciated .

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-30-2015, 01:39 AM
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Some info on the trout section of the Grand (as apposed to the steel section) .

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GRCA - River Data - River conditions -
Will give you the flow of the Grand . (look at "Fergus-below Shand dam out of the list on the link if you're looking at the brown trout section)

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Credit will be very rain dependent. That's prime time for chinooks so the river will be full of yahoos with treble hooks, 1oz sinkers, nets, etc. Personally I avoid the river completely then to avoid my blood pressure from going thru the roof.

Grand should be fishable but again rain dependent with pushes of fish after rains.

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Grand should be fishable but again rain dependent with pushes of fish after rains.
Disagree. I cant think of a river in southern Ontario that is less dependant on rainfall to push its early fall steelhead runs (except maybe the Notty). Especially in 2015 when the three major headwater reservoirs are all at the top end of their rating curve (i.e. water levels are above target) and the dam managers will be looking to dump water soon.

The Grand has fishable numbers of steelhead by mid September most years, but it is more temperature than flow dependant. If the heat wave forecast for this week decides to stick around for an additional week or two, you may be out of luck for chrome. If that happens you can always try the Grand tailwater further upstream, or the upper Credit for resident trout.

I'd PM you more details on temperature as the date approaches, but I'll be leaving for BC soon and will be out of the picture. Check the temperature page on the GRCA website previously provided. GRCA - River Data - Water quality - water temperature You can toggle off the other stations below the graph and just leave Brant to read the graph easier. You want to see temperatures at Brant in the 15-18 C range or below. Anything higher and fishing there is unethical IMO. These are wild fish and they are never abundant.

Another option for you for early fall steelhead and chinook is the Nottawasaga. Just as close to T.O. as the Grand, and more stable temperatures.

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Thanks to all for the replies. I will be doing the Credit on a Monday so hopefully not as bad as everyone says. I assume weekends are the real mess?

But since I have to work Monday afternoon the proximity of Credit to downtown Toronto makes it the only option i know of.

Will let you guys know how i make out.

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Credit will be busy, but it will be better on a Monday. If you're willing to walk a good distance from the parking lot it will thin out a little more.
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Are you fishing the credit in the city for salmon or in the upper for trout? The lower river is a gong show during the salmon run. You might be ok in the early morning but after lunch forget it
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Fishing for Chinook near city. I have to be at a meeting at 3 so was planning on getting to Erindale park by sunrise and fishing until around noon. I definitely don't mind walking a mile or more if needed . If it's a **** show I will just leave.
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I stand corrected. Larry knows the Grand inside and out. What I should have said was that rain definitely helps (as does temperature). Credit is very rain dependent. I think of it as a spate river. In low water conditions almost all runs you'll be able to see to the bottom and if any fish are around will be very spooky.

Grand is far larger than the Credit.

FWIW be conscious of traffic if you need to get back for meetings. Gardiner Expressway will be a parking lot during rush hours (yes, very plural).

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Disagree. I cant think of a river in southern Ontario that is less dependant on rainfall to push its early fall steelhead runs (except maybe the Notty). Especially in 2015 when the three major headwater reservoirs are all at the top end of their rating curve (i.e. water levels are above target) and the dam managers will be looking to dump water soon.

The Grand has fishable numbers of steelhead by mid September most years, but it is more temperature than flow dependant. If the heat wave forecast for this week decides to stick around for an additional week or two, you may be out of luck for chrome. If that happens you can always try the Grand tailwater further upstream, or the upper Credit for resident trout.

I'd PM you more details on temperature as the date approaches, but I'll be leaving for BC soon and will be out of the picture. Check the temperature page on the GRCA website previously provided. GRCA - River Data - Water quality - water temperature You can toggle off the other stations below the graph and just leave Brant to read the graph easier. You want to see temperatures at Brant in the 15-18 C range or below. Anything higher and fishing there is unethical IMO. These are wild fish and they are never abundant.

Another option for you for early fall steelhead and chinook is the Nottawasaga. Just as close to T.O. as the Grand, and more stable temperatures.

Good luck

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Have fun on the Credit. That stretch is a complete gem. Heck of nice little river in the middle of a big city - especially in November/December when I'm normally there!
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Thanks again for all of the info. Greatly appreciated.

WRX, in regards to traffic I rented a car that i planned on returning back to Pearson Airport on way back to city. From Pearson was going to take that express train into town. Looks like Erindale is only 30 min from Pearson and then i figured another 30 - 40 min on train which let's out right next to my hotel. Sound realistic?

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