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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 07-23-2015, 11:26 PM Thread Starter
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I'm from OH and have been researching for awhile, and after a recent trip to Deschutes, I've decided I'm going to pull the trigger on property in OR. Question is now, where will that be?

Really love Deschutes (btw, if you haven't been out to see John and Amy Hazel at Deschutes Angler yet, you gotta go...great folks), but Maupin is a kinda slim pickings re: real estate. However, I don't mind the drive if located a bit more to the west. I really loved it out there and would probably say it's my first choice. Although, honestly speaking, that may be due to fact that I've never fished Rogue or Umpqua yet.

I have also been looking at Gold Beach area on Rogue as well as Glide/Roseburg area on Umpqua. Both were very highly recommended. Problem is, I've never been to either location in person and although I will obviously visit before purchasing anything, I'd rather try to focus my current search to particular areas.

Also open to any other areas, such as Mt. Hood, for a more central location.

I'm always going to be fishing for steelhead first before anything else whenever possible. So that would be my priority as far as fishing is concerned. That being said, I'm also just looking for a vacation home area (either to build or to buy existing) that I can possibly rent out as well...something in a good neighborhood that is in close proximity to fishing/river recreation.

So I guess I would like to pick your brains and see what kind of transition it is coming into the different areas as a newcomer: Deschutes v. Rogue v. Umpqua. Are there any areas you recommend I focus on or if you have some personal opinions based on experience, I'd be all ears to hear them. Just interested in hearing what people have to say.

Little info about me...I have zero drift or jet boat operation experience, although I'm certainly banking on learning and am fine with purchasing whatever set up suits the water best. Just in case this plays a role into choice of location and adjustment period.

This is a big investment, so I'm just trying to get as much insight as I possibly can from those that fish this water regularly.

Thanks in advance.
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They are all going to be good but each has some limits. Maupin is great but it is only one River, but it is a great river😀. Housing will be limited.

Roseburg area is a nice community (reformed logging town) that is growing fairly rapidly. Fair amount of retirees there and close to the NU but not much further to the coast. Down side, NU is a finicky River considered finishing school. Tough.

Rogue River ... Lots to like down there, plus a couple guys that know how to make rods live near there 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻.

In short, no one place is going to cover all the great fishing opportunities in Oregon... Bend/Redmond have lots of good vacation homes but that puts you out away from close steelheading.

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If steelhead are your main focus year round you need to be close to rivers where you can find both winter and summer fish. The Deschutes is a summer/fall fishery as are other eastside rivers so you'll probably want to be located west of the cascades. West of the cascades most rivers are winter rivers, but a few host runs of summers and a few have runs of both providing nearly year round steelheading. The coastal rivers are mostly centered around winter runs, although summer fish are available here and there. All the major towns on the I-5 corridor have steelhead available within a reasonable distance pretty much all year, you just need to decide what sort of community you're interested in and what sort of climate you can handle. Basically as you go north from the california border the towns grow larger and more urban and the weather gets wetter in the winter. I'd come for a visit in summer and winter.

I moved to Portland 20 years ago from Wisconsin thinking I was a steelhead fanatic. I caught fish, but found the winters on the west side to be dismal and depressing. I moved over the mountains to the dry side so I could see the sun, but that put winter steelhead a couple hours drive away over an often treacherous pass. It was ok with me, winter steelheading can be miserable wet business on rivers that are hard to find good swinging water on, and I found I much preferred tossing tiny dries to trout in winter and reserving my summers and falls to chasing summer steelhead. I hope you can find what you want.

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Big comfy trailer and truck. You can go where you want and stay for as short or long as you want. If towing a boat, then a big pickup camper. Another option.
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all of the above +

It depends, I guess, on whether you are talking about a vacation getaway, or a permanent place to hang your hat. Population tends to cling to the I-5 corridor. It spreads further, both west & east as you go north. Bulges around college towns & the climate leans more towards the left. Hood River attracts a lot of tourists & I suspect real estate to be proportionally priced. Gold Beach is rather sterile socially, unless you are a dedicated Salmon junkie. Bend/Redman area has been discovered by retiree's & developers. Great if you play golf, but somewhat limited fishing opportunities. If I had it to do over again, I would rent (and I hate renting) something, anything, for at least a year, to gain a better perspective.
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This is all fantastic insight. Really appreciate you all taking time to provide.

Wish I could make the move permanent, but that ain't happening w the wife's inevitable homesickness. Maybe a few months out of year, but that may be stretching it. So available job opportunities will not be a factor in my decision.

Agree the best thing would be to visit/rent in each area for awhile to make decision. Not sure if I'll be able to do it for more than a few days at s time right now, but wise advice nonetheless.

I'm liking the idea of deschutes for summer steel and trout. Gonna have to visit rogue and umpqua first tho.

Thank you all again.
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If you are looking for a vacation home you may want to look at Sunriver. Great vacation community with lots for the other family members to do while you fish which may promote your success in the venture. Also great property management companies to look after and rent your property to help with the cash flow. It is quite central for all the three rivers that you mention, and they are for sure the 'big ones'. Sunriver is a high demand area for summer and winter because of the skiing. If you decide to sell at a later date you should find a good demand for properties. I moved to Oregon from the midwest over 40 years ago (to the Willamette Valley) and found that the wet winters were great compared to the midwest, plus it helps keep out some riffraff! Great weather gear is a necessity for winter fishing, be prepared! Doc
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Thanks for the insight, Free. Much appreciated.
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A good truck and 5th wheel might be a good investment then live where you feel the most desire to. It would be easy to spend a summer without leaving the state and just going from river to river. For me the pull of Idaho rivers is what has my house for sale here in wetter WA.

Good luck in your search it could be a great time.
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I think the suggestions on a large fifth wheel or to rent a place are great suggestions. When getting ready to retire my wife and I spent a ton of time looking at lots of options. The most relevant to your situation is that all most universally the data points to if you are going to spend 4 or less months in a second home then it makes sense to do the trailer or rent.

Plus both of these options give you flexibility. You can try different areas and won't feel bound to go to your vacation spot every time because you are paying for it. Even if you plan to rent the place, which does help the financial aspects, there are lots of considerations there too, the most important being to use a quality property management company to run your rental.

Good luck in your search.

For the record we did end up buying and spend just about 50-50 in our two homes. That is a really blessed way to live.
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I think the suggestions on a large fifth wheel or to rent a place are great suggestions. When getting ready to retire my wife and I spent a ton of time looking at lots of options. The most relevant to your situation is that all most universally the data points to if you are going to spend 4 or less months in a second home then it makes sense to do the trailer or rent.

Plus both of these options give you flexibility. You can try different areas and won't feel bound to go to your vacation spot every time because you are paying for it. Even if you plan to rent the place, which does help the financial aspects, there are lots of considerations there too, the most important being to use a quality property management company to run your rental.

Good luck in your search.

For the record we did end up buying and spend just about 50-50 in our two homes. That is a really blessed way to live.
Well said...and solid advice. It may be the way to go to figure out what area(s) are best fit for me...er, I mean...us.

Thx for all the input here. Really helps.
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As I read your initial post, I immediately thought of Sunriver. Freecast hit it right. Good location just on the East side of the Cascades with the Deschutes running through the community and Ski resort just a stone's throw away. Vacation community for the most part. Lots of rental opportunities. Central to Deschutes, N. Umpqua, Rogue, and reasonable drive to the rain-belt (western Oregon) in winter. They get 40+ inches. In southeast, we get 6. Sunriver probably somewhere in the middle with more snow than rain.
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ES, does your wife fish for steelhead also? Did she travel with you when you were out west? If not, what are her interests, it might help people in recommending locations.
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Cebe,

No, she was not with me when I went out to Deschutes... and she's not into fishing. I'd say "at least not yet," but I know her enough to realistically say that it's prob never gonna happen. She would definitely enjoy a scenic hike, a drift boat ride and some easy kayaking, but she's a bit on the girly side when it comes to the outdoors. Plan on getting her out to see a few areas and see where she most enjoys the scenery.

Good call though. I have had her in mind (believe it or not lol) this whole time during this search process.

Thanks.
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I-5 from Salem to Portland .... skip it! Now South, east and west ..... space, lots of space. Some major towns but for the most part they are just that ... small towns. Fun to have a 'eatery' where you don't bother to order, they just bring you a plate of food.

Coffee cups never empty. My fav, waitress is 'Maggie.' "Good to see you back Mr. Evans. Haven't seen you in quite some time, have you been ill?''Oh God was I!!!! Ham and eggs on the plate and just 'picking at it.' FLUMP in the other side of the booth; 'You're not doing well are you?' Sitting upright and a sleep.

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