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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 06-26-2015, 01:23 PM Thread Starter
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Anybody have any fishing suggestions for the rogue or nearby for the july 10-14 time period near Medford? Heading to a family reunion, looking to wet the double hander, not completely necessary for 2 handed rods, but I have a full quiver from 5-9 wts

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We should have some nice half-pounders, cutties, rainbow and a few early summer steelhead around that time. Most of the summer run steelies make it into that area around September/October, but there always seems to be a few in the water almost year 'round in these parts. Maybe it's just my wishful thinking when I'm out there.

Here's a great little link from the ODFW that gives some good bank access points on the Rogue. It's a good starting point at least!

http://www.dfw.state.or.us/resources...60_Medford.pdf

I would try my hand at the Denman Wilderness area for some nice (tucked away) spots to swing. Enter on the North side of the river off Modoc Rd. Just a thought.

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Anybody have any fishing suggestions for the rogue or nearby for the july 10-14 time period near Medford? Heading to a family reunion, looking to wet the double hander, not completely necessary for 2 handed rods, but I have a full quiver from 5-9 wts

Thanks in advance
Easy.

Live 5 minutes from the river. Two options: Tou Velle park (both sides of the river!), $5.00 parking fee but that covers every public access Leave it on your dash board. North side of the river you've got a 1,000 yards of river to fish. South side (main park) is more limited. Lots of parking so don't worry about that. Low water flows will give you lots of options.

Better option is the public access points (lots of them) below Grants Pass. There will be the first of Summer Run Steelhead and lots of Spring Kings in the river.

Edit: Just bring a 6 wt for Steelhead, the fish just aren't that big. Kings will average about 10-12 pounds so a 7wt is adequate. Fish the faster water at this point.

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Tuo-Velle/Medford area

Rainbows & hallf pounders, IMHO, are really juvinile steelhead that have yet to see salt. Legally, they are classified as trout until they reach 14 or 16 inches length, (not quite sure which) and may be killed & eaten. Apparently to satisfy a certain segment of the population. All cutthroat must be released unharmed. Most are higher up in the river, but every now & then they are caught as low as Tou-Velle. Like said, a bit early for summer steel, although everything seems to be showing up earlier since the dams have been removed.

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Half pounders usually spend about 4 months in the salt thus they are not the same as a resident trout. This is a well documented part of life history the species in the Rogue and Klamath.
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That part I agree with

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Half pounders usually spend about 4 months in the salt thus they are not the same as a resident trout. This is a well documented part of life history the species in the Rogue and Klamath.
What I take issue with, is when people start talking about catching half pounders much further up than Rainy Falls. Galice maybe, Tou-Velle, highly doubtful. Probably a mute point however, seeing as how either a juvinile steelhead or a half pounder are length challenged enough to be classified a trout.
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What I take issue with, is when people start talking about catching half pounders much further up than Rainy Falls. Galice maybe, Tou-Velle, highly doubtful. Probably a mute point however, seeing as how either a juvinile steelhead or a half pounder are length challenged enough to be classified a trout.
I've caught plenty of half-pounders above Touvelle (usually floating between Takelma & Dodge, or Dodge & Touvelle) during the summer months. Usually in the 14"-16" range and bright chrome. Much thicker than rainbow, without the color, and fight a lot harder. Probably not as prevalent as below Indian Mary or Galice, but undeniably present. Interestingly enough, I still don't think they fight as hard as cutties (for their size anyways).

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Heading out on Friday; any word on the steel showing up early? Thanks for all the input so far. Looking forward to checking out some new water!
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So far, the Chinook have been good (numbers wise). Chinook aren't known for being taken in the Upper Rogue all too easily on the fly, but it is being done. I've had a number of friends/customers that have come back with some pretty fun reports, mostly using glow bugs and indicators. The steel are coming in also, but we still have a bit of time before they show up in full force. There are definitely early chromes to be caught, you just have to find them!

Last update I can find dates June 24th and shows:
Spring Chinook - 6,060
Spring Chinook Recycled - 4,012
Summer Steelhead - 84
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I was told there are like 200 fish in the hatchery already, I haven't checked for myself but a quick Google search will give you an idea... Shoot me a PM when your planning to go out, my work is about 30 seconds from touville and my house is about 15 minutes from the dam so if I can make it out one evening I'd be happy to join you.
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So far, the Chinook have been good (numbers wise). Chinook aren't known for being taken in the Upper Rogue all too easily on the fly, but it is being done. I've had a number of friends/customers that have come back with some pretty fun reports, mostly using glow bugs and indicators. The steel are coming in also, but we still have a bit of time before they show up in full force. There are definitely early chromes to be caught, you just have to find them!

Last update I can find dates June 24th and shows:
Spring Chinook - 6,060
Spring Chinook Recycled - 4,012
Summer Steelhead - 84
With the dam gone where/how are getting the counts? When the dam was there the river was pretty much 'blocked' until they had to get up-stream. With it gone it sounds like they're motoring on! COOL!!

The Spring Kings are noted for NOT taking a hook; most were 'flossed' by bank angler's using 'regular gear' not fly rods. Now the Fall Kings ... WHA-HOOO. They will jump on the same flies as the Summer Runs if you put in front of their nose.

Remember my first ...., fishing for Summer Runs then the rod just bent over. No 'take,' just bent over .... ah crud, I've hung up. Then the rod began to 'throb!'

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Hey you guys,
Take notice of the time stamps on Fred's posts. The old goat is beginning to keep "normal" hours again. 4:40 PM? That's the latest I've seen Fred up in ages! Welcome back Fred.
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Had a good time swinging the Rogue. A beautiful river and although I didn't get to fish as much as I would have liked (family obligations) I still got to feel a bunch of grabs. Ended up fishing below lost lake reservoir since we stayed in Shady Cove. Saw some salmon jump, heard rumors of steelhead, and got a few trout to hand on the 2 handed 5 weight. A good time for sure!!! Thanks for all your input
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Glad you had a good time! Cole River Hatchery to the Shady Cove area is a really fun stretch of water. A customer of ours called yesterday and told me that he hooked into a bright (6lbs.) hatchery hen last weekend at Casey Park. Good water!
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