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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 06-08-2015, 04:46 PM Thread Starter
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Advice Terrace, Smithers early September 2015?

Driving from Northern California for a first pilgrimage to the Skeena system first few weeks in early September. Two of us are on a budget and hope to camp in good weather and find cheap clean motels in bad weather. Will splurge for dinners out and craft beer. Bringing lightweight pontoon boats and able to walk/hike. Heard perhaps, Copper, Morice/Bulkley and Kispiox may be good options? Aware that nonresidents can't fish on weekends on classified waters. Any good advice is welcome and appreciated.

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i mostly fish the bulkley so you should go to the kispiox or copper

the bulklely's good, easy floating, not many river hazards. on the upper part I find the runs are sort of difficult, no defining features(head, middle, tailout) just miles and miles of great looking water. The closer you to get to town I find you get the more traditional looking runs.

If you're in Smithers eat at the restaurant in the hudson bay lodge, so good and a great price!

Oh and fish mostly dries, it'll be worth it!
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My choice should be Bulkley/Morice. Both easy to float and good access too.
I would suggest Houston, there are a couple of motels and I guess they are more friendly priced than in the Smithers area.
Kispiox: great river to float! However the last 30 kilometers are in Indian reserve and they charge $$$ you for being there.
Copper: very very occupied and only fishable 4 days a week for NRA's!!

Something to do in the weekend: go to Rainbow Alley near the Babine! Lots of fun with a 6 weight on the trout and sockeye there!

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Thanks Brambo and Jonathan.
I will definitely take some time to check out the Bulkley close to town and near Houston and swing some dries! Steelhead Alley also sounds interesting. Someone told me that BiMac (sp?) was a popular campground on the Bulkley but I can't seem to find it on a map or the web. Do you know of it?

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BiMac is on the Morice. Keep in mind the Morice and Bulkely are classified separately.

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Bymac is a campground at the Morice near the logging factory in Houston and has also a boatramp, so it can be crowded there. However it is a nice run to fish for a couple of hours. Close to Bymac downstreams you have Canoo Point and the Moose run
There are some more campgrounds like Lamprey Creek at km48, Aspen and Owen Flats. All at the Morice with easy access for pontoons.
At the Bulkey go to Walcott and Quick, nice runs between them and easy to raft.
Like Mark says: keep in mind the Morice and Bulkely are classified separately!!!
Normally I also in that area in September but this year I go to Iceland, in search of the big browns there!
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Thanks for the heads up. If I understand you correctly I would need two permits to float from ByMac to Walcott for example, one for the Morice and one for the Bulkley or purchase one for the Bulkley and not fish until I floated down to the confluence where it becomes the Bulkley. Does it sound like I understand this correctly?

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Brambo:
Thanks for the great advice, I have the Backroad Outdoor Recreation Map (the only map of the area I know of, suggestions for others are welcome) and found ByMac, Aspen, Owen Falls, Lamprey Creek, Walcott and Quick on the map. Could not find Canoo Point and Moose Run? Guessing these are well known runs? Do you know of any books, maps or other resources where I might find this info or is it entirely word of mouth?

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That's correct.

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Thanks for the heads up. If I understand you correctly I would need two permits to float from ByMac to Walcott for example, one for the Morice and one for the Bulkley or purchase one for the Bulkley and not fish until I floated down to the confluence where it becomes the Bulkley. Does it sound like I understand this correctly?

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Hi Craig , all accurate info here that I can tell , Brambo mentioned Lamprey Cr area , A Warning that a AK gent was mauled by a grizz a few years ago. There are lots of sightings in what we call upper river , so be Bear Aware. I haven't seen much below Aspen , but...not to alarm just cautious. I pack spray in the fall for certain rivers for sure! Feel free to Pm , Steve
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Canoo Point and Moose Run, those are the names some locals use over there and really easy to find, so you could meet other anglers there as well. Just drive downstream and you will find them.
And yeah, like Morice56 says, there are some grizzly around that river. I've seen them several times at Lamprey Creek.
Just buy at a local tackle shop some bear spray to give you a safer feeling, but remember, it's their country so play it with their rules: make noise and let them know you are there!
I've fished the Morice since 2001 and never had any troubles but I do remember the attack in 2012. That guy was fishing alone till dusk and for some reason he came between a sow and 2 cubs!

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ShastaTrout -

I may see you up there! We're driving up from Medford on the 1st dragging a sled.

Anybody - are felt soles allowed on all tribs? If not, which ones have restrictions?

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Bbudesa:
Do you have a destination planned or are you winging it? Might be fun to get together to tip a pint and share lies? I've never been before so any advice is welcome.
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there's no regulation regarding felt soles.
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There are two absolutely golden campgrounds in the Smithers area. The first is the Smithers Riverside Municipal Campground right on the Bulkley River. It's within istaggering distance of a decent pub and, if you're tough, beautiful downtown Smithers. See their website for resos. The other is Tyhee Lake Provincial Park set just above the town of Telkwa on the Bulkley. Depending on how good you are at staggering and whether you can get someone to show you the shortcut path, it is also in drinkable distance to town. Google for the resos. A good private option right on the Bulkley is the Fort Telkwa RV Park. They've got RV spaces, of course, but also tent camping spots as well as outfitter's tents for rent and a couple of housekeeping motel style rooms, plus laundry and like that. Not to mention a really nice stretch of water close to the tent camping. It is important to know, however, that almost all of the catchable steelhead will have been taken before you get there or after. The drive is long and tedious one way, and completely soporific the other. And when you go out for dinner, or stop for coffee, no matter how you try to fit in, nobody will mind.
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