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Best bet for Atlantic Salmon or summer Steelhead this July

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My wife and I are debating whether or not to do a road trip this July to either Atlantic Canada or go out to the west coast and road trip up from SF to maybe Seattle or Vancouver. I would like to work at least one day fishing into the trip.
I have always wanted to fish for Atlantics so if we do the Canada thing where is my best bet? If out west where would you go for Summer Steelhead?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated


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Can't speek to Atlantic's but the mouth of the Rogue River area ...

For Steelhead and Spring run king Salmon. Wonderful drive, easy fishing, etc. Get the 'Streamtime' fishing map of the Rogue (about ten bucks) for access places. Map may be 'dated' but its still dead on with what you'll find 'boots on the ground.'

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the Atlantic Salmon runs were way way down last year - the Miramachi for example was a record low.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-br...2014-1.2768766

and that was with plenty of water....

imho i would look at the Moy or Cork Blackwater in Ireland or the Tyne in England for Atlantics (fly via Glasgow or Edinburgh) if you're set on catching one.

otherwise, i'd head up towards seattle and BC for easier fishing and more likelier hook ups.
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the Atlantic Salmon runs were way way down last year - the Miramachi for example was a record low.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-br...2014-1.2768766

and that was with plenty of water....

imho i would look at the Moy or Cork Blackwater in Ireland or the Tyne in England for Atlantics (fly via Glasgow or Edinburgh) if you're set on catching one.

otherwise, i'd head up towards seattle and BC for easier fishing and more likelier hook ups.
Not to hijack the thread but... For the River Tyne, you will be able to fly non stop to Newcastle from Newark starting in a few weeks.

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If you are looking to go somewhere, and want to keep both parties happy, nfld is a great choice. Fly into Deer lake, or take the ferry from Nova scotia. The scenery of gros morne national park alone is with the trip. There are countless salmon rivers ranging from pocket water size to massive rivers. All types to suit anyone's fancy.
Fresh seafood, unique culture and very friendly people.

If by chance the fish don't turn up this year, you won't mind as the rest of the trip will make up for it.

You can even visit a river where the salmon run through caves to get to their spawning waters.
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If you go west I'd fish the fly only stretch of the N Umpqua. Anywhere you do go, though, flows will likely be low. There is also a good chance wildfires or at least smoke might alter your plans. It's going to be a dry smokey summer here in the PNW.

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Not to hijack the thread but... For the River Tyne, you will be able to fly non stop to Newcastle from Newark starting in a few weeks.

Tim
oh wow - that could be HUGE for scottish salmon, trout and grayling fishing.

If you live in the NE, the grayling strems of N England will be easier to get to than Montana or Alaska LOL.

Eamn - what river is that with the caves ? i've heard of that but didn't know where it was.
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Eamn - what river is that with the caves ? i've heard of that but didn't know where it was.
The river I am referring to is Beaver Brook.
As a disclaimer, the use of the words Brooks, rivers and ponds are much different in Nfld then other parts of the world. They have some rivers of decent size called brooks, and some lakes that are quite large called ponds.
A perfect example is Western Brook Pond...
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Lived in Labrador for years. Plenty of great opportunities for atlantics. Pinware river has fairly easy access though it helps if your half mountain goat. Both Eagle and Flowers river offer excellent fishing with good odds for fish over 20 lbs. You would be hard pressed to find better fishing for atlantics in North America than what the Flowers river offers.
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If you go west I'd fish the fly only stretch of the N Umpqua. Anywhere you do go, though, flows will likely be low. There is also a good chance wildfires or at least smoke might alter your plans. It's going to be a dry smokey summer here in the PNW.
I am predicting a very, very difficult season on the NU this year. Prior years construction of a fish ladder at the dam silted the river which I believe will reduce counts in the 2015 summer season. Combine that with the projected low water flows, and that's a recipe for a season a great views, lots of casting and little fish to show for it. Only 4667 steelhead were counted at the winchester dam last year. Historical average is 7270. The fish counts have been naturally trending downward on the NU for some time. If I were looking to actually catch a steelhead on a trip, I would look elsewhere in July.

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Hello

I just want to thank everyone for the great suggestions.
I appreciate the help.

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The Miramichi River in NB is usually excellent in July. I have been going there since 1984 in July and have found it to be pretty consistently good to great, BUT we rent private water which is some of the best on the river. Even with the predictions of a bad run this year, IF you rent private water, you should have a good shot at a salmon or two.
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this is more than slightly out there, but a flight from philly to stockholm is less than philly to quebec - $900.

i've never considered fishing for salmon in Sweden, but its pretty cheap - $30 a day or $100 A WEEK !!!!

hotels are about $130 a night.

if I don't hit the North Umpqua next June (2016) i may well give it a try.
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Emel,

Whatever direction you decide on, I hope you decide to fish for more than one day. Both Atlantic salmon and steelhead are low percentage propositions, and the odds of a hookup if you fish only one day are low. Do yourself a favor and allocate several days for fishing.

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