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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 04-21-2015, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
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So I'm going to be in PEI in early July. Was thinking of making a day or two trip to Blackville NB so I can fish the Miramichi. I know it's probably not the best time of year but would like to give it a go anyway. Any suggestions on a guide?
Will be a budget trip so unfortunately no fancy lodges but a good bed and breakfast would be helpful.
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You can rent Wilson's pools for 100 bucks a day without a guide if you want go that route...thinking about doing that myself in may plus there is place that rents tree houses for 80 bucks a night... I had my wife sold on treehouse

Early of July there should be fish, with all this snow hoping the water will still be high.

Any more questions feel free to shoot me a message
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No recommendations on a B&B, but early July can be the best time of summer to be on the Miramichi. That's when I'll be there (lol, among more than a couple other times). Oh, and as a non-resident, you must be guided by a licensed guide...so while you may be able to rent a pool for 100 bucks, you still have to pay a guide 1, unless you know a guide 2 that will take you.
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I'll call wilson's tommorow and see if you need a guide to fish on their pools, man New Brunswick makes things complicated in Nova Scotia we just pay extra for a salmon license
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lol, trust me, if you are not a New Brunswick native, you will need a guide to fish: (it is very easy to google the fishing regulations for New Brunswick, btw)
From their 2015 regulations book:


Information for Non-Residents

Non-resident anglers require a licensed guide when fishing for sea-run Atlantic salmon, or when angling for any species on Guide Required Waters after the designated date.

Non-residents may fish without a guide on Fish New Brunswick Days but require an appropriate licence if sea-run Atlantic salmon, or landlocked salmon (greater than 48 cm and less than 63 cm) are retained.

A professional guide (Guide I) is permitted to angle and hook a salmon on behalf of his or her licensed client. The client is considered to have hooked the salmon and may tag the fish, provided it is of legal length.

Professional guides (Guide I) and their clients cannot fish at the same time.

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P.S. New Brunswick is completely C&R, single barbless hooks this year. The regs were printed before that went into effect, so the note above about tagging a fish is incorrect.
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Ohhh man for the first time I wish I was a resident of New Brunswick.... thanks to a s**ty spring lobstering, I maybe can convince my wife on a two or three day trip.... But more than likely I will be sleeping in my truck again on the margaree and the river phillip
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a cheaper option would be to stay at the restigouche motel for $80 a night, and fish the public water on the matapedia for between $30 and $60 :


https://www.saumonquebec.com/TheRive...s/default.aspx

http://www.cgrmp.com/

you can buy a license for a sector when you get there, depending on the conditions and where the fish are
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I question the fees listed above as I usually pay $80 plus per day for the non-controlled sectors as a non-resident. Receive a 25% discount when purchasing 7 days of permits. Have not fished there the last 2 years though, so they may be getting benevolent.

You can catch a lot of fish, and you can keep a lot of fish. But you can't do both very long. Jim Timmins
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I question the fees listed above as I usually pay $80 plus per day for the non-controlled sectors as a non-resident. Receive a 25% discount when purchasing 7 days of permits. Have not fished there the last 2 years though, so they may be getting benevolent.
you might be right, unfortunately i can't access the CGRMP website from here at work, but that should have the correct offical fees for NR's.

http://cgrmp.com/rates.html

still amazingly cheap compared to other Gaspe rivers lodge and fishing prices imho.
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still amazingly cheap compared to other Gaspe rivers lodge and fishing prices imho.

Completely agree, and I can fish the uncontrolled sectors of the Bonaventure, and others at about the same rate as the Matapedia. C'mon June!

You can catch a lot of fish, and you can keep a lot of fish. But you can't do both very long. Jim Timmins
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I spend a lot of time fishing for Atlantics.
Last season:
Miramichi, Blackville: 4 days in 3rd week July
Miramichi, Doaktown: 4 days starting August 10
Restigouche, Glen Eden: 5 days starting June 19
Restigouche, Kedgwick Lodge: 7 days starting August 30
Labrador: 6 days staring July 5

Last years numbers on the Miramichi were at record low returns. I made two trips up, and was appalled at the lack of fish. Pools that normally are full, and sections of the river that you normally see splashing fish making their way upstream were quiet...
June on the lower Restigouche was disturbingly similar. Better numbers for the upper camp, but they have better holding water, and deep pools for the fish to congregate and ready for the spawn.

I seriously wonder if we are on the edge of the demise of the species in NB, NS, and PEI.

And for further consideration, my numbers in Labrador (where I have fished since 1994) were at about 35% of previous years...

I hope I am wrong.
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I spend a lot of time fishing for Atlantics.
Last season:
Miramichi, Blackville: 4 days in 3rd week July
Miramichi, Doaktown: 4 days starting August 10
Restigouche, Glen Eden: 5 days starting June 19
Restigouche, Kedgwick Lodge: 7 days starting August 30
Labrador: 6 days staring July 5

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i was going to say i want your life Chris, but ouch thats a lot of cash not to catch fish.....

salmon fishing even at its best is a high input low return game, but with these plummeting runs i think its best to minimize your lay out if you can and also be mobile - have the ability to switch rivers or regions at short notice.
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It was a tough year on the Miramichi, no doubt, but I managed to land fish in June, July, September and October. One thing is for sure, if you don't have a line in the water, it is highly unlikely that you will hook a fish. Folks that are looking for a sure thing don't last long as atlantic salmon anglers.
Hope you find the river you're looking for and have an enjoyable experience!

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