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View Poll Results: cackhanded or switch hands?
cackhanded 134 50.19%
switch hands 58 21.72%
switch for some casts, cackhanded for some 42 15.73%
all of the above, i am a truly ambidextrious spey god. 33 12.36%
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post #1 of 42 (permalink) Old 04-04-2011, 10:19 AM Thread Starter
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cackhanded vs. wronghanded

for off-shoulder casts (wrong wind, wrong side) how many of you are casting cackhanded, vs. switching hands?

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Glad you had the 'Spey God' choice.

'Practice' is something I don't do very often (I just fish and let that be the practice bit), but I do force my self to cast either hand up as appropriate.

If you want to put in some getting used to (comfort level) casting either hand up, just pull out one of your single handers and do some grass casting to build up a comfort level. It works.

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i've tried that Fred. about 8 or 10 years ago, i forced my self to learn to cast lefty. mostly so i could teach lefties better. can do it fairly well now, but still better back handed. where it is hardest for me lefty with the single hander is with a streamer and lots of weight, or on small dries, accuracy suffers. just never felt natural. if i go all day throwing big dries from the boat, i'll mix it up,50/50 roughly, and i'm fairly comfortable. i figure at the same rate, in another 15-20years maybe i'll be able to cast the spey rod lefthanded ok too!!

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Since I have gone almost exclusively to skagit - used to love the long line but shoulder and elbows problems have caused me to stick with one system - I am for sure cackhanded - it takes a bit less time on the river to stay with one hand up and I am truly left hand stupid!! I think if I had stayed with long lines, I might have tried to learn left hand up but my cackhanded casts are just as strong if not stronger than my other casts
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I sure didn't find changing hands very difficult at all. Just a little practice and it seems pretty natural. The motions are all the same, nothing new to learn . . . just different hands and a different side. And no, I ain't no spey god.
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A little of both...

I don't like/haven't figured out the cack-handed Circle Spey, so I switch hands for that. I can cack-hand the Double Spey pretty good, but it just doesn't feel right to me, so I've been switching hands for that.

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When I switch hand, I end up casting backwards. (kidding)....
But Casting over my opposite shoulder is probably my best technique, although doesn't apply to many situations. I think that truly a combination of these techniques and hybridizations of such occur after years of fishing, not necessarily casting, resulting in deliberate and improved situational line control.

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I was lucky and was taught to cast both right handed and left handed, it has especially helped me when one method would develop a problem in technique that I could not figure out, then switching hands for little bit, till I was mentally ready to cast with the proper hand for the current conditions.

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I would like to learn to cast cackhanded though, just one more trick in the bag!!
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Cack handed because:
1] I have previously injured my left shoulder, day to day it's fine but it sometimes 'cracks' or 'clicks' when extended & it is less likely to protest if it remains the bottom hand which ever shoulder I am casting from.
2] I'm so very strongly right handed that, notwithstanding the above, I'd really have to work very hard & concentrate to achieve 50% of what I can manage easily with my right hand up top.

So I stick with the easier [for me] option & enjoy my fishing more.

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I don't like/haven't figured out the cack-handed Circle Spey, so I switch hands for that. I can cack-hand the Double Spey pretty good, but it just doesn't feel right to me, so I've been switching hands for that.
If I'm reading the above correctly, I too fall into that z;iufxf!! I can cast either hand up, but there are casts that I just can't pull off (as in almost at all) depending upon which hand is higher on the rod. As an example, river right and right hand up I can really chuck a snake roll. Don't ask me to do a Circle or snap t ... river right or no, I have to have the left hand up or it's 'game over.'

River left, just the opposite. But maybe that's why I should just put a bit of yarn on the end of my leader and 'practice.'

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I've tried to switch hands and if I don't think about it it'll be a fine cast but most times my head gets in the way.

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i find switching my grip is not a problem with a skagit or Scandinavian head but managing the loops in the opposite hand is a problem. so as of late i just go cack-handed. that way i keep the loops in the same hand (right hand)
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Forgive my stupidity

Forgive my stupidity. What is crackhanded? I was taught to switch hands depending on which side of the river Iím on and that is the way I've all ways done it.
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speyoholic - cackhanded is just casting off your opposite shoulder rather than switching hands - quite easy to do especially with the shorter head line systems - not quite as easy with long belly lines but doable - for those of us who are very left hand stupid it works great and in fact it is likely my strongest cast
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Thanks

Thanks RickJ, got it now thought I was missing something.
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