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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-05-2019, 07:17 PM Thread Starter
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Do people really use their switch rod to indicator fish?

I know it can be done but it seems like a lot of single hand rods have a faster rod action and lighter swing weight than a switch rod making mending a lot easier. If you do use your switch rod to indicator fish, how do you fish it and with what line? I imagine arm fatigue might be more of a factor indicator fishing with a switch rod. Any input is appreciated. Thanks!
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I used to do that. They are great with ovelined wf line to fish bigger water where a single hander wouldnt have enough punch to roll cast a heavier hardware. With a #7 switch, 9wf steelhead taper, and two hand waterborn casts you can cover bigger, deeper water than SH would.

Those days are over tho... life is too short to be messing around and not swinging flies.

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Hahaha thanks for sharing.

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I used to do that. They are great with ovelined wf line to fish bigger water where a single hander wouldnt have enough punch to roll cast a heavier hardware. With a #7 switch, 9wf steelhead taper, and two hand waterborn casts you can cover bigger, deeper water than SH would.

Those days are over tho... life is too short to be messing around and not swinging flies.
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Indicate what?
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Wrong crowd! But, you can mend line very easily with two hands on a two handed rod - just with a little flick. It's much easier than SH rod style mending actually.
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I use a yarn indicator to fish chironomid style in kamloops trout-infested stillwaters. On a 2-hand 4 wt fly rod. They are not always taking emergers and dry flies but if they were I would continue to use the short 2-hander. The preferred line is the Nextcast Fall Favourite 35 in the 330 grain version.

I also keep hearing and reading that folks drift nymphs out west for steelhead. If I was indicator fishing for steelhead, I would probably use hmm.... a 10 1/2 foot 6 weight 2-hander. Start by matching it to a Nextcast Fall Favourite 45 6/7 wt.

So yeah, folks really do use shorter 2-handers to present with floating indicators.

Personally I like to fish a steelhead fly on occasion similar to the way some anglers might present fluttering spoons or swimming jigs; there is no requirement for a strike indicator. A strike indicator can get in the way.

Once upon a time, I used a Great Lakes slinky presentation on the Salmon River in upstate NY and other Great Lakes rivers for steelhead and salmon. It worked. Rather well, thank you very much. Quit when I got back out west. Haven't touched a slinky in over 25 years!

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7 or 8 switch rod with indicator for winter steelhead. Rio Switch line (or floating Salmon/Steelhead 9 or 10). From the boat- allows great big mends. I like it.
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Between swinging runs we will have a 11' switch set up with a Rio Swich Chucker and an "Eggs&Legs" offering on the Trinity.

The switch allows for Perry Pokes. I know! We only swing for steelhead. While it is the much preferred method, I don' just don't see the harm in keeping a line in the water and locating pods of fish
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The Trinity is an amazing river! I just fished it in January.

When you run this setup, are you adding a mow floating tip to the Chucker or just have the Chucker connect straight to the tippet? The Chucker is a nice line but it does take some getting used to with a longer head than say a commando head or max short IMO.

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Between swinging runs we will have a 11' switch set up with a Rio Swich Chucker and an "Eggs&Legs" offering on the Trinity.

The switch allows for Perry Pokes. I know! We only swing for steelhead. While it is the much preferred method, I don' just don't see the harm in keeping a line in the water and locating pods of fish
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Nothing added to the head (No floating tip). Add leader and start staring at the the pretty PINK bobber.
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No plans right now. But here is a picture of one of the ones we landed in January. How has the Trinity been fishing recently?

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Q: Do people really use their switch rod to indicator fish?
A: Does a bear poop in the woods?

In all seriousness...

The biggest advantage to a switch rod vs. a single-hand is line control. If I were to indicator fish, I would much prefer a switch rod - or even a standard spey length. If you observe an experienced fisherman using jigs and float (not much different than an indicator with a fly rod) - you'll notice that almost all of their rods are approaching 10' in length or longer. It's a game of line control.

Years ago, Airflo produced a line called a "speydicator". It was specifically designed for indicator fishing but because of it's taper design, it also performed very well fishing a floating leader and poly's of various sink densities. Very versatile line for a guy who may want to swing and indicator fish in a given day with just one rod. It does require a big reel -- this line takes up a lot of space.
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Is there an equivalent line to the "speydicator" that is currently available?

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Q: Do people really use their switch rod to indicator fish?
A: Does a bear poop in the woods?

In all seriousness...

The biggest advantage to a switch rod vs. a single-hand is line control. If I were to indicator fish, I would much prefer a switch rod - or even a standard spey length. If you observe an experienced fisherman using jigs and float (not much different than an indicator with a fly rod) - you'll notice that almost all of their rods are approaching 10' in length or longer. It's a game of line control.

Years ago, Airflo produced a line called a "speydicator". It was specifically designed for indicator fishing but because of it's taper design, it also performed very well fishing a floating leader and poly's of various sink densities. Very versatile line for a guy who may want to swing and indicator fish in a given day with just one rod. It does require a big reel -- this line takes up a lot of space.
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Is there an equivalent line to the "speydicator" that is currently available?
It looks like you can still buy some online. Let me know if you have trouble.
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