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post #1 of 3 (permalink) Old 04-27-2008, 12:08 PM Thread Starter
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question-spiral double spey-Rio Modern Spey Video

For those who have seen this instructional video, Simon is on what looks like River Right, fly on the dangle, and he's casting with right hand on top.

I'm trying to figure out the direction/shape of the initial C movement. I assume that the concave part of the C is toward the opposite bank, (ie, when on River Right, it is a backward C). (Although I would almost think that doing the C in the opposite direction would work also because the initial movement is just to get the line aerialized) I don't think Simon really mentions what direction the C movement is made, so perhaps someone can comment on this for me. As a newbie, understanding 'the path' is paramount. many use an initial spiral or C movement on the double spey to help with anchor placement. I haven't tried it yet but in theory it sounds like it makes a lot of sense, in that, once the line is aerialized, the angler can 'time it better' to get a more accurate placement of the anchor by dropping the rod (and line) at the right moment. Perhaps the initial movement would help bring sunk lines to the surface also?

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i believe it should be opposite the movement of a snake roll so river right, right hand high it should be a clockwise C...

my opinion is that this movement is not unecessary to the double spey because any load it adds to the rod is lost after anchor placement. in a spiral single the spiral adds to the rods load which can then be applied to the cast. it also has been easier for me to complete larger direction changes with a spiral single than a normal single. this would not be the case with a spiral double because the move has nothing to do with the forming of your d loop. to sum up this rambling it seems like unecessary work to me
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If the concept is, as proposed on the DVD, that it is 'easier' for more accurate anchor placement in stage 1 of the double Spey, then it is another move to learn for what is a very straightforward traditional cast.

The way to learn correct anchor placement, and in consideration of the direction of final casting stroke path of the double Spey cast, is to work with the same length of head during practice, until you have 'got it down'.

Simon demonstrates on the same video set, and everyone learns something new each time it is viewed, how to correctly place the achor in the double Spey, and how to correct improper placement on subsequent casts is mistakes are made.

I do think that the addition of this spiral cast to the double Spey set-up probably complicates matters unnecessarily.


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