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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-09-2013, 08:26 PM Thread Starter
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Hi All:

I was wondering if any of you have experience using the Cutthroat Spey leaders (either the Dredger or the Re-Inforced Spey)? I have used their trout leaders, both dry and nymph, and really like them; I've not used their spey leaders. Just curious to find out what folks think?

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I'm a mono guy for floating line spey casting. In my experience and that of several of my friends that are good spey casters, with furled leaders there is to much line stick for the casts we use. Never tried them for sinktip fishing with a two hander. Maybe if one is using sustained anchor casting they would work well.

My trout fishing is done with single handers of 9' or less and 9' mono leaders.

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Thanks, Poppy. I was thinking that they might 'stick' too much for floating. I might give one a shot for sinking, as I'm wondering if they would work a bit like a poly leader? I very much appreciate your input!

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Are you talking about Furled Leaders here? If so, PM me as I love them on my light 2handers.




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I've been using them a bit to see how well they will sink my flies. For moderate currents they are preforming well. I use them with floating mid & long belly lines and find casting is not much effected by having one on my line. I should add that I am not an authority on casting and there may be others who will notice some differences between these and your current leaders.

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In a real world of spey casting scenario what actual advantages do furled leaders offer over mono leaders?

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In a real world of spey casting scenario what actual advantages do furled leaders offer over mono leaders?
I must agree with Mike in what he said. Although I have some of these I stubbornly use my own leader design because it has proven itself over many years. I guess that what this would suggest is that if you are doing something that works, why change? If you're using Poly leader and catching fish things are working out. Conversely, if you're using furled leaders and doing the same there would be no need to change either.

I guess I'm a life member of the 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' club

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Just my personal observations as I use them all the time.

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In a real world of spey casting scenario what actual advantages do furled leaders offer over mono leaders?
1. They're totally limp, no curling of any kind.

2. You don't replace the things (well it takes a hell of a lot of casting) , just a few feet of tippet (use the one's with the 'ring.'

3. The transfer of energy from the fly line to the fly is usually arrow straight. You really have to screw up a cast for it to be any other way.

4. It takes almost nothing in 'fly weight' to pull it under water. Even a size 10 bead head sinks like a rock. Mini-poly leader sort of thing. Just a choice of how you treat the leader: sink-it or Mucilen sort of product(s).

5. If made with Kevlar thread (number 2 not withstanding) they're almost indestructible.

I'm sure there are more, but that's all that comes to mind at the moment. That said there is one VERY IMPORTANT thing about using Furled Leaders. They're constructed based on rod line weight. One for a 6wt will will be a heck of a lot heavier construction than one for a 3.

Edit: On a rod over a 6wt, probably a waste of time.




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Thanks a lot for all of the info/suggestions guys. I appreciate it. I might pick one up just to further screw up my already poor casting. Again, thanks for the input.

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