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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 05-21-2011, 04:13 PM Thread Starter
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ELF Running line:Back-end loop

About to rig up my new Shakespeare Condex (JWYoung 1535). Backing has a double surgeons loop in it. Anybody use the Large Rio braided loops (Spey size) for a back-end loop in a running line?

I have some of those loops downstairs now...and will certainly use one at the front end of the ELF. I could fold a loop and double nail knot it (then Aquaseal)...but the Rio loops are so dang convenient.

Anyway...large braided loop, a couple of nail knots and then some Aquaseal to smooth out the end, what do you think? Should I go with a smaller braided loop?

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Keith - what running line are you using? Most pvc based already come with loops so I ask? If mono running line I would just go with a not-slip loop or even surgeons loop though I have acutally used the hollow core on slick shooter and never had a failure
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Depends on how much you switch heads Keith ??
I switch heads a fair bit on some rivers . Some rivers that I fish are quite diverse , so I find myself switching heads between runs and pools .

I would go with folding over the running line and either welding it or nail knots and a coating . I've switched from Aqua-Seal to UV Knot Sense . I find the coating lasts longer and is easier to obtain and is very quick setting .


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For a super clean and strong loop to loop connection I use a blind splice on the backing and welded loops on the running line. If you don't like welded loops then doubled over with 2 nail knots of 15# maxima coated with uv knot sense works well--make the last loop about 8" so it can slip over the coiled shooting head.

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I've been folding a loop and whip finishing it at the tying table with no issues. I can build the thread up however I like and then uv knot sense over top.

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Blind Splice - Splice Loop

6" Blind Splice for the backing (30lb.), looped to a small Splice Loop on the running line. A very smooth loop to loop connection.

All Meiser SGS lines have braided cores which is needed to make a Splice Loop.

I like using UV Knot Sense as well for making these loops.

Coat mid. Blind Splice sparingly with UV Knot Sense.

When using the Splice Loop to loop to the backing, I will not coat the loop with UV Knot Sense, just use it for splicing, to keep the Splice Loop flexible. But I will coat the Splice Loop a couple times with UV Knot Sense when using it to loop to sink/float tips, to stiffen the Splice Loop some. I'll also Sharpie color the Splice Loop the same color as the line, before coating the Splice Loop with UV Knot Sense.


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