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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 05-21-2011, 03:13 PM Thread Starter
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ELF Running line:Back-end loop

About to rig up my new Shakespeare Condex (JWYoung 1535). Backing has a double surgeons loop in it. Anybody use the Large Rio braided loops (Spey size) for a back-end loop in a running line?

I have some of those loops downstairs now...and will certainly use one at the front end of the ELF. I could fold a loop and double nail knot it (then Aquaseal)...but the Rio loops are so dang convenient.

Anyway...large braided loop, a couple of nail knots and then some Aquaseal to smooth out the end, what do you think? Should I go with a smaller braided loop?

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Keith - what running line are you using? Most pvc based already come with loops so I ask? If mono running line I would just go with a not-slip loop or even surgeons loop though I have acutally used the hollow core on slick shooter and never had a failure
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Depends on how much you switch heads Keith ??
I switch heads a fair bit on some rivers . Some rivers that I fish are quite diverse , so I find myself switching heads between runs and pools .

I would go with folding over the running line and either welding it or nail knots and a coating . I've switched from Aqua-Seal to UV Knot Sense . I find the coating lasts longer and is easier to obtain and is very quick setting .










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For a super clean and strong loop to loop connection I use a blind splice on the backing and welded loops on the running line. If you don't like welded loops then doubled over with 2 nail knots of 15# maxima coated with uv knot sense works well--make the last loop about 8" so it can slip over the coiled shooting head.


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I've been folding a loop and whip finishing it at the tying table with no issues. I can build the thread up however I like and then uv knot sense over top.



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Blind Splice - Splice Loop

6" Blind Splice for the backing (30lb.), looped to a small Splice Loop on the running line. A very smooth loop to loop connection.

All Meiser SGS lines have braided cores which is needed to make a Splice Loop.

I like using UV Knot Sense as well for making these loops.

Coat mid. Blind Splice sparingly with UV Knot Sense.

When using the Splice Loop to loop to the backing, I will not coat the loop with UV Knot Sense, just use it for splicing, to keep the Splice Loop flexible. But I will coat the Splice Loop a couple times with UV Knot Sense when using it to loop to sink/float tips, to stiffen the Splice Loop some. I'll also Sharpie color the Splice Loop the same color as the line, before coating the Splice Loop with UV Knot Sense.

http://midcurrent.com/videos/tying-t...-spliced-loop/

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