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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 12-19-2010, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
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Patagonia Sea Trout...leaders?

I'm going to be fishing the lower Rio Grande in Argentina in Feb. for sea trout and would appreciate leader advice. Big water; big fish I hope.

Will be fishing 8/9 wt. Windcutter line on one rod; 9/10 on the other with the versitip system.

Recommendations for leaders?...don't have experience with poly leaders which look to be the "latest thing". Fished for smaller sea trout in the Falklands previously where they used level leaders, no taper and ca. 10-15 lb. test, so will be taking a selection of leader material on spools.
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I have fished the Rio Grande more than a half-dozen times, last in 2009, and am going back in Feb. 2011. Early on, we used 7 wt & 8 wt single-hand rods with Teeny 200 & 300 sink-tip lines, with short level leaders and weighted nymphs and leeches, as well as floating lines with longer tapered leaders and dry flies and skaters. Last time there I fished exclusively a 13' 3" 7/8 wt 2-hander with a 500 gr. Skagit head and 15' of t-14 with a short level leader of 3-5" of Maxima Ultagreen 15 lb., alternating between TDF nymphs and big, dark, Intruder-type flies. This combination was very successful. The longer rod and spey casting made water coverage and line management much easier, and the casting was more fun. One of the guys I know who keeps coming back there insists on sticking with SH rods. He's a good fisherman and catches a lot of big fish. How you rig your system really depends on the conditions you encounter at the time. I hear last year the river was high, fast and dirty most of the season, so heavy tips were the order of the day. I understand right now it's high, but clear and dropping. Rain and snow melt in the meantime will determine conditions in Feb. For all we know it could be low and clear, as it has been in other Februarys. Sounds to me that what you have done in the Falklands would work.
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I'll be at EMB that last of Feb/first week of Mar. Early reports from the river look good...

For sink tips I've always used just straight mono/fluro in the 12 to 16 pound range.

There are time when the weather and water conditions line up for waking flies and having a longer tapered leader that works with your line system would be a good thing to have if you're interested in trying that technique. But most of the time you'll be fishing a sink tip.

There have been "high water" years when you had to get deep fast and 300/400 grain "big boys" or 18-20 feet of T-14 were needed to get in front of the fish with any regularity. You might want to try a skagit system if you have access to those kind of tips. If not, consider going with a longer piece of straight leader and a fly tided on a heavy shank with big dumbbell eyes. The fly will drop fast, stay deeper longer and get you in front of fish.
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Very good advice posted above, basically mirrors my thoughts. I'll be there 2nd week of March 2011, same dates as my 2010 trip.

In my opinion, the tips selected seem of much more importance than the leader/tippet itself. I use about 3'-5' straight 15lb Maxima Chameleon, or 16-20lb fluorocarbon, looped to a 20" butt section of 30lb Chameleon on the end of all my tips.

I found myself using 10-15' T-14 almost all week last year, even though the water was low and clear. Probably a bit more sink rate than necessary, but that's just how I prefer to fish for browns... on the bottom.

If you need any more info at all for your trip please don't hesitate to ask away.
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Thanks for the excellent and detailed advice. Hope we all have tight lines!
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Hi Leicadave !

Good to know you will be fishing our river.
Are you staying at Jose Menendez ?
DO NOT FORGET YOUR FLOATING LINE !

February is a good month to skate "green machines" and swing spey patterns just below surface , even better if your trip is during late Feb ...

As it's going , it seems river will be low this season

Good luck & better fishing !!
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