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View Poll Results: What do you use most of the time?
Felt 108 24.71%
Felt with studs 158 36.16%
Rubber 48 10.98%
Rubber with studs 123 28.15%
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post #1 of 112 (permalink) Old 07-01-2010, 05:06 PM Thread Starter
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Felt vs Rubber

Marketing gimmick or the real deal?
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post #2 of 112 (permalink) Old 07-01-2010, 05:59 PM
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I chose rubber with studs. I'm assuming the sticky vibram-like soles are considered rubber in your poll.

I'm about to put new felt on some old boots and screw in some sheet metal screws. It will be interesting to see how they compare.
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10% bleach disinfectant. A lot cheaper than buying new boots. I'll stick to felt. Just bought two pairs of g3 guide boots for less than half price thanks to everyone who's bought into the rubber hype.
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For those that hike and wade a considerable distance to get to their run/hole, felt is no longer a viable long-term wading boot option. The minor inconvenience of Virbram rubber not gripping on every single terrain in the water is outweighed by superb footing and longevity of rubber soles, with or without cleats, out of the water.

Need to descend and ascend a slimy ravine wall to get to and from that coho froggy water? You won't second guess every step with rubber soles.

Wading greasy runs on the South Thompson? You should have a wading staff with you regardless of what boot you wear.

My streamtread boots were a steal compared to other felt soled boots on the wall at the shop.
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I have heard enough horror stories about the rubber soled boots that I won't go there until felt is outlawed. I have a pair of Korkers stream cleats that I can put on over my felts but rarely consider a need for them - the NU being an exception!!!!
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Felt is soon to be outlawed here in Alaska. I got some streamtread simms boots. The horror storys people are speaking of is no different than slipping with felt. I have fallen in the river my fair share of times with felt, and so far this year have not fallen with the stream tread. The only bad thing about them is they are HORRABLE on ice without studs, but then again, what isnt? I personally think people are just expecting too much out of the soles, they aren't super glue, but they are just as good as felt.
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Do organisms cling to felt and possibly be introduced into more areas yes but then again how about the uppers the laces and the neoprene.

Last Steelie season in northern BC I watched all sorts of people taking unscheduled dunkings while using the new soles with and without studs and it convinced me never to even contemplate buying into the hype. Felt and studs for me, I guess I will just have to stay away from areas that adopt the no felt regulation.

As you get older its way to easy to snap a leg or blow out a knee while wading slippery boulder strewn runs when using the best product on the soles of your boots why would you even think of using a much inferior product.



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AK-Grayling: "Outlaw Felt" right, get real. How is that going to happen? Government hire felt sole police? They won't put fish cops on the river to curb the flagrant poaching and snagging going on and you think there is going to be laws and enforcement for what kind of soles are on peoples boots? I think the fallout will be the local shops won't stock them, and that's it.

The rivers I fish in Alaska are best fished with felt soles. You could wear anyting on the Kenai, and rarely fish that anymore. I use studs for winter ice. I wont give them up. Who is going to take them off of my feet? The whole premise that banning felt soles will stop the spread of waterborne invasive species is a rouse. How about the rest of the boot, the waders, the boats, the plane floats, the trailers, and on and on. It may be a marketing ploy.

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Next thing you know, it will become unfashionable or illegal to re-use flies in different watersheds. Just one more thing to consider

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Felt with studs all the time....rubber soles=gimmick.

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Felt and studs are way better than sticky rubber with studs as far a grippiness. I use the sticky rubber because its much better for walking in the snow, which I do a lot of my fishing in. I also do a fair bit of jetty fishing and the sticky and studs works just fine in that environment. I just hate the idea of putting korkers on over my boots. Unnessiciary weight and a bit clumsy...
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10% bleach disinfectant. A lot cheaper than buying new boots. I'll stick to felt. Just bought two pairs of g3 guide boots for less than half price thanks to everyone who's bought into the rubber hype.

THANK you................lets let basic science prevail over retail marketing.
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i'll stick to lug soles (simms boot-foot) try walking thru 6" of snow with felt boots...
Been there done that , reminded me of wearing platform soled boots in the 70s .

hope I dont need to go non felt for a while as I have 3 pairs of felts all with a fair lifespan left.and then there are my lads pair which may need replacing.

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Wheres the wet wade w/ sandals on option?
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I use Vision shoes with Amphibia rubber (made by Stealth rubber, as is Aquastealth also) with studs. To my opinion, the Amphibia rubber is better than felt at most places and where it isn't the studs give still an edge over felt. I'll never go back to felt as long as this kind of rubber performance is available.

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