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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 01-11-2020, 10:50 PM Thread Starter
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new waders

So in usual fashion for myself, I got new waders in July Simms g4z and the new ones came out in November...anyone have the new style ... any real update to consider me selling my old style and buying the new ones....hope everyone had a great holiday
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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old 01-12-2020, 05:15 AM
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I would wear the ones you have for many years to come. The new ones donít have the 5 layer legs. A little less front coverage also. But they are lighter in weight because of this. IMO they are basically the same as the g3.

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Yeah, my impression is that Simms has reduced their portfolio
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post #4 of 26 (permalink) Old 01-12-2020, 01:32 PM
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Keep your older ones.
I've got G4Z's over 10 years old.
Heavy yes, but durable and most importantly dry!
Get the next new ones when your older ones wear out.
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And you know damned good and well that as soon as you purchase the latest generation of wader, the NEXT one will be right on it's heels with even groovier embellishments!

That's been my downfall on so many items. As soon as I buy something, the next one comes on the market, and I kick myself for not waiting.

Oh well.
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I like when the new ones come out. Then i can buy the new left over stock of the older generation at a reduced price. I just did that with a pair of Dryft zip front waders.
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very disappointed with the "improvements" on simms waders. my new model G3's already proving much less durable, and they don't even fit as well. why change the sizing ? don't even like the new color (shows dirt a lot more) only reason I never bought Patagonia waders was the sizing. that is no longer an advantage. next time.
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very disappointed with the "improvements" on simms waders. my new model G3's already proving much less durable, and they don't even fit as well. why change the sizing ? don't even like the new color (shows dirt a lot more) only reason I never bought Patagonia waders was the sizing. that is no longer an advantage. next time.
With Patagonia's new SwiftCurrent waders (and pant) they've changed the sizing, so maybe now they will fit you.
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Timely thread, I'm about to order new waders. I agree with many that the business of changing something that has proven to be durable is enough to give me gas. I like the G4 I've used for the past 8 seasons and just want a replacement.

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Simms sure let me down a couple of years ago. I had a pair of their Riprap wading shoes made of leather with vibram soles that lasted five seasons. When they finally gave up, I bought a new pair. Big mistake. The rip part of the Riprap name proved prophetic. The "leather" parts of the uppers were fake and quickly lost their outer skin of thin plastic. The rugged mesh was replaced by netting that quickly developed gaping holes to let sand and gravel in. The Vibram soles were replaced by some no-name thin soles that started peeling into strips that acted like magnets to any stripped line so I could be dancing around with a fish on trying to get my backing out from under some of the loose flaps of rubber sole. The glue they used to hold the shoes together was about as strong and durable as Elmers white glue.

After being stiffed by Simms customer "service", I bought some Choata HYRB-200 shoes for about 60% of the Simms price and have been happy with them for two seasons now and based on their level of wear, I think they will go at least another two seasons. The new and "improved" Simms wading shoes barely lasted one season and are the last Simms product I will ever buy.

My Patagonia wading pants went two seasons before starting to delaminate but they gave me $200 credit towards some new ones so I'm on my second pair. These are super comfortable and if I don't expect to get in over my waist, I prefer them to my Patagonia chest waders. These are great combination with the Choata shoes.
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Like Tom, I too am switching to wading pants. My knees are such anymore, that I don't like going in deep, so what's the point of chest waders? The side pressure of the current makes me think the knees could go out anytime, and that wears on me physically and mentally.

Besides, I've always got my wading staff, and I can cast as far as I need to for all the rivers I fish, so I'm happy.

I was fishing with Dutchie last fall, and sure liked the looks of the wading pants he was strutting around in.

He looked like he'd been shot at and missed, $hit at and hit, but the pants looks great!


Besides, when the time comes, they're easier to zip and unzip.

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Has anyone used the dryfts for a while and how are they standing up. Best wader,s I have had yet were allen gold streams,fit like a bag, but didn,t leak for long time, next best were a set of Hodmans but they were tight on legs to get off, next were simms g 3 which were a disappointing as weeped right from new and soaked one leg after likely 3 weeks or less of use. Now using a set of vision zips and thinking need some new back-ups for spring trip and honestly don,t see spending a lot on what seems to be a short lived item anymore. Need some thing more tough than fashionable,something I can walk in or even shoeshoe in a bit and last for a month of fishing on foot,not riding in a boat. The visions have stood up pretty good,bottom of zipper leaks bit but hardly ever that deep ,just sometimes on a wade that is deeper than planned and pants sound good but sometimes got to get to other side and thats where they are lacking. I want a pair of waders to wear, not to ship back and forth over warranty issues and shipping from Canada to States is now expensive and slow.Any word on Drifts lasting or not. Thanks Daryl

Forgot a set of Redingtons that lasted pretty good to but once they started to leak there wasn,t enough shoe goo to fix them. Shoe goo is your friend when your getting cold spring water coming in and only half way through your trip.

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Going on third season with Dryfts. I really like them. I have zippered version and will buy them again when itís time to replace them. Have made 5 trips to Montana and two to Tierra Del Fuego as well as fishing in Texas rivers. Iím reasonably careful but have not
Babied them. Call their customer service peeps and they will tell you what they did to test them before the rollout.
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Thanks for the reply Bud, thats what I was hoping for, I don,t think I,m super hard on waders either, 65 years old now and have to wade with a pole but do try and put in a good day of fishing.I don,t usually drink while fishing so don,t think I,ll get another pair of zipper waders although they are easier to get on and off at end of day.I think I,ll order some dryft,s and give them a try. likely have 6-7 weeks of full days fishing on the visions and even though should have got smaller size they been pretty good so far , small weeping from bottom of zipper and one leg getting damp now but not enough to get foot wet yet.To original posters question, friend of mine that was a fan of Simms said he ordered new G4s and said quite a bit lighter made than ones from year before. With the exchange now they are getting close to 900- 1000 dollars Canadian and thats to much for me to pay.I did really like the older Simms guide boots and have pretty much wore out a pair with the funny plastic piece on top by toes and they been ok too. Still using the first set for part days on local trout stream and other than couple of the top hooks pulled out and felt worn off toes they are comfy and solid still after likely 6-7 years and out lasted a few pair of waders. Daryl
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I like my Chota shoes and see they make waders too. If they make waders as well they make these shoes, they might be worth a shot. They are a bit less expensive than many others. If they made pants, I might try them. Has anybody tried their waders?
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