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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 12-06-2019, 10:23 AM Thread Starter
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Which Rio SSVT on Beulah Platinum G1 6126?

I've been using a 390 grain Rio Scandi Short full floater for some months and I like how it casts. I primarily use t&g casts, and I'm looking for a line that casts nice like a scandi, but will be a little more versatile depth-wise. I'll only using size 1 and smaller unweighted flies, so I was thinking SSVT. Rio recommends the #6 (370 grain) or the #7 (425 grain) for this rod. I'm also aware that Rio makes a scandi body that falls in between the 6 & 7, but this one isn't offered in a kit with tips. Anyone out there use an SSVT on a Platinum 6126? Thanks in advance!

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The scandi body line is the line in the ssvt. The ssvt uses 10' tips on the scandi body and the svt uses 15' tips on the same scandi body. So, if you want the line in between, buy that head and then buy the tips you want.
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I'm aware of how the difference between the SVT and the SSVT is achieved. The short version should match both my rod and the water I'll be fishing. I'm thinking the #6 SSVT will be perfect with the float tip for dry/damp flies, just worried that I might be disappointed when it's time to loop on the sink tips, or if the weather gets windy. Conversely, I'm sure the #7 will be good with the sink tips, but will feel very sluggish with the float tip. The #6/7 body will probably disappoint me by not doing either float or sink tips well. I know I'm picky. Just trying to do the last bit of my homework before dropping $150 on a line system.

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I don’t know your rod, but I use and love the Rio SVT and SSVT in #5 up to #10 and use them as sinktip solution for fast touch and go casts in Scandi style.

My experience, no matter which of my rods it was, it was always the tendency to the lower weight. The SSVT loads very very well and if you prefer line speed and speed of touch and go casts, I would definitely go with the SSVT #6 first.
If I am failing, take the #7 afterwards, you will need and love it on any other rod !

But joking apart, up from 12’ rods I use the Rio Scandi light Versileader on any sinktip in this line system - in difference to the floating tip.
It depends on what you are doing now. If you are using Mono leader on your full floater, the Polyleader on the sinktip makes a big difference in casting and presentation.
In the end, the use of Polyleader adds line length and weight into the loading zone and your rod loads at least as deep as your full floater with less weight. Also the sinktips alone for itself add more anchor stick compared to the full floater.

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Thanks for the input Wetwader. This is exactly the kind of info I was hoping to hear. Does the light scandi versileader/sink tip combination generate line speed comparable to the float tip with a mono leader? Sounds like it would... which is exactly what I'm trying to achieve.

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Thanks for the input Wetwader. This is exactly the kind of info I was hoping to hear. Does the light scandi versileader/sink tip combination generate line speed comparable to the float tip with a mono leader? Sounds like it would... which is exactly what I'm trying to achieve.
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the sinktips are a lot faster, compared to the Floating tip or your Scandi Full Floater.
The higher the density, the thinner and faster they are from sink 3, sink 6 (to sink 8). A lot faster!
They cut through the wind much better with more power and higher velocity.
That’s why I „need“ Polyleaders/Versileaders to slow them down for better presentation, at least for my expectations. It adds distance also.
Just add 4-5 ft of tippet to the Polyleader of 10‘ or a little more, depending on sinktip, fly and fishing situation.
Compared to the use of a tapered Mono leader of 12‘ (+ a „victim piece“ of 2 ft and a tippet of 3 ft) that’s around the same length.
Of course this is very flexible as long as we are willing to adapt the casting.
Just give it a go and use the same stroke with some adaptions. More of adaption is only needed for the lift, because of the deeper digging sinktips and additional weight of Polyleaders.

If you prefer unweighted or smart weighted flies, what you obviously do, it’s also a benefit by a more straight line path with a Polyleader. Something like a 3D line if we want to say so. As far as possible combinations of tips and Polyleaders are used...
It’s a very well adaptable line system of sinktips and Polyleaders.

If it is adapted well and some proper technique is given, it can result in a longtime grin, even without a fish.
But the SVT/SSVT is also one of the best lines for „lightweight“ waterborne casts.
Just to be said, if fishing situations needs something else than touch and go casts.
I use a lot of different Scandi lines, but all together, this system is hard to beat in versatility and casting performance, especially in the lower line classifications.

But take the Rio Scandi light Versileaders. They are complementing the SVT/SSVT in #6 up to #8 for best results.

Hope this is of further help.
Good luck and tight lines !

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Sounds great to me! I love the idea of an adaptable "3D" line system! Thanks again Wetwader!

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