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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-27-2019, 08:30 PM Thread Starter
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Hardy Bougle Wind plate locked up ?

I have a Hardy Bougle Heritage I bought used.
I am unable to remove wind plate.
The reel is in pristine condition.
Wondering if any member has any experience with this problem.
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Why won’t it remove?

The screws are reverse-threaded. Turn right to loosen. And be careful; they’re soft.
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Why won’t it remove?

The screws are reverse-threaded. Turn right to loosen. And be careful; they’re soft.
Yes, we used to call that "left handed" threading. The Heritage Bougle also has instructions imprinted onto the spool right where the screw is. If you've tightened it too much it might break while trying to remove it. Nasty trouble if it does break but likely saveable either way.
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The screw was not a problem removing. The Wind Plate is( SOOOOO) tight I am unable to turn with my hands.
I tried tapping the spool on my hand to break free but no luck.
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It might be worth a try to submerge the reel in a sink of warm to mildly hot water for a couple of minutes. Then try to unwind the backing plate.
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It might be worth a try to submerge the reel in a sink of warm to mildly hot water for a couple of minutes. Then try to unwind the backing plate.

If not do opposite, place it into a freezer for 10 minutes. In very warm water the metal parts expend slightly in low temps their shrink. See in what case the gap between spool and the frame increases more.
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If the screw is out then it should just be a matter of using your hand (fingers and palm) to put pressure on the frame and spool while turning the winding plate the right way. Sometimes it takes what William Olson refers to as a stab.

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Sounds to me like the spindle is bound, not the plate. I'd lay it flat, spool side up (you'll have to support the reel to make room for the handle), then a couple light drops of penetrating oil around the spindle. Leave it along for a few days. May have to repeat several times over a couple weeks.

Also, not just the spindle screw that is reverse threaded, but the plate too. To remove the spool, wind backwards.

I was always the kid that tried to muscle things. Patience has come with age and a pile of broken "forced" things.

Once you get it open, clean it really well, using a pipe cleaner and light oil though the spool opening and on the spindle.
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Winding plate is reverse thread?


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Yes, so right hand reeling winds into it.
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Yes, so right hand reeling winds into it.
That means it’s a normal thread. Reverse thread means you wind counterclockwise to tighten
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Thank you for all your replies!!
I tried everything decided to send Reel back to seller.
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That means it’s a normal thread. Reverse thread means you wind counterclockwise to tighten
AKA a “right handed” screw. The vast majority of screws are right handed, except when there is a specific reason for a left handed screw, like the drum screws on the hardy perfect style reels. The plates screw off “right handed”.

It’s admittedly a tense issue when you have one of these expensive, possibly antique things that is jammed up - am I %100 sure I’m not actually making it worse? I had the opposite issue, a loose spindle on a zenith I bought on eBay, and though I was almost sure I could probably get it tight enough to stay on by my own effort, after two earnest tries that did NOT work I also finally decided to just send it back. Chicken I know, but in this case for a relatively inexpensive and easy to find reel I knew the cost of the back-up option of sending it to Archuleta or somewhere to get it sorted would have been a significant percentage of the total. Like the OP, I would imagine, I finally decided “why is it I that should be the one that has to roll the dice when the seller didn’t deliver the item as described?”

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AKA a “right handed” screw. The vast majority of screws are right handed, except when there is a specific reason for a left handed screw, like the drum screws on the hardy perfect style reels. The plates screw off “right handed”.
I had a brain fart. Sorry gang. Thought about the feel of backing it out, rather than the direction.
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