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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-18-2019, 11:20 AM Thread Starter
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Ariflo Head coiling

Bought an airflo skagit head from a user here and it came in Friday- when I took it out the package it was coiled up but not what I would consider really tight. It had some twisting as I unrolled, it, and I did my best to unwind them, but even still it has a serious memory going on and will not lay flat. The entire length is just "crooked" I unrolled it from the reel and have tried to get any twists out. I got it to stop twisting, so it should have none in there, but it didn't help.

Not sure if this can be fixed- the line is in good shape, aside from this.

Any suggestions on how to deal w this? Tried gently stretching it and relaxing it slow like you would a leader- that did not make a difference.
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It will likely straighten with some use but you could gently warm it and stretch it straight. I will sometimes pull the line through a rag or towel. Keep some tension on it and the friction will warm the line as it passes through.

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It will likely straighten with some use but you could gently warm it and stretch it straight. I will sometimes pull the line through a rag or towel. Keep some tension on it and the friction will warm the line as it passes through.

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I think thats the best advice. Don't forget to coil your heads and lines clockwise.
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Yep, warm water will do the trick. Not hot - you should be able to put your hands in it comfortably without an overwhelming desire to jerk them back out. Let it soak for a minute to get the temp up and then gently stretch it. Usually all you need to do is pull it from one end out of the water through your hands under light tension at that point. Of course let it cool laid out straight - don’t immediately coil it back up. If necessary rinse and repeat. Different line materials, I have noticed, sometimes require a little more effort at a given temperature, but I do this all the time. You can always raise the temperature progressively, but if it IS only memory, and not some actual damage like the core separating and twisting, then this WILL work. The technique also works great on coated shooting lines if you first remove as much of the twist as you can, but is especially useful for particularly thick parts that do not stretch easily. In the end doing it this way gently will probably be far better for the lifespan of the line than this using excessive force or friction.

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I have a few Airflo heads, some new and others purchased used on the classifieds. They don't seem to straighten even after soaking in warm water and stretching. Always have wavy kinks when on the water and it's worse when really cold. OPST and Rio heads straighten easily after a gentle stretch and stay straight on the water. I admire the polyurethane durability and the tough loops but the kinked crooked layout on water is a downer.
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Rio and most other lines are PVC, where as Airflo are of course polyurethane, so they will definitely behave differently, and it could be due to other difference than materials. The method I describe does seems to work for me on airflo lines, but maybe you may need to play with the temperature/time a bit. I do it sort of intuitively so I’m not sure about the exact quantitative details like temperature and tension. But I will typically repeat the process until satisfied. It may also just be that I have lower standards for the final result and just can’t tell the difference.

When Rio introduced its non-stretch cores a few years back it suddenly got a lot harder to get the memory out by pure stretching, even on slender trout lines - very annoying. Haven’t met too many people who actually liked the new cores better. If I was a cynic I might think a gimmick that encourages people to replace all their lines was pure marketing genius. I’m not sure in the majority of fishing situations sensitivity trumps getting the memory out and a little extra shock insurance.

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When Rio introduced its non-stretch cores a few years back it suddenly got a lot harder to get the memory out by pure stretching, even on slender trout lines - very annoying. Haven’t met too many people who actually liked the new cores better. If I was a cynic I might think a gimmick that encourages people to replace all their lines was pure marketing genius. I’m not sure in the majority of fishing situations sensitivity trumps getting the memory out and a little extra shock insurance.
I for one am in the camp of it wasn't broke so why did they "fix" it?
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I for one am in the camp of it wasn't broke so why did they "fix" it?
I know, right? All fly fishermen everywhere could ever talk about around the proverbial campfire was how horrible it was that their lines would stretch a bit if loaded.

It was however sweet for a short while when the entire “old” Rio catalog went up on clearance all at once! Ironically enough I haven’t needed to shop for a new one since.
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Thanks for the insights, figure I'll give the warm water treatment a shot.
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Fly lines are expensive, especially if you like to experiment and get your prized rod(s) dialed to cast as well as possible. Months ago I came across this listing on eBay for an Airflo line (see photo).

I doubt yours is as bad as that one, but even a little twist in a line can be like a warped knife ... annoying as hell. If it were me, I'd trash the head and get another that has been properly stored or just buy new and wind it up without twist.

I have two line winders that I use: one for loose coils and home use (Anglers Image) and one for on-stream use, tightly coiled on a spool (Rio's Cranky Kit w/ a rubber band wrapped around the line spool).

As a result, all of my lines are straight and fly beautifully true. And with the Cranky Kit it doesn't matter if it's a Skagit head or a full, integrated Spey line, it easily and quickly winds and stores lines properly. There have been times when I've wound a full line and all the backing on one Cranky Kit spool, which is a standard Rio spool.
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When Airflo first started to make advances in fly lines, their first non stretch lines developed quite a reputation for being anything other than straight.This was especially prevalent with the sinkers.They would come off your reel like a coiled bed spring and were very often un useable!.
I had a precursor to an Airflo line in a Sue Burgess line(floating WF7) it was a cracker of a line and when it eventually wore out(as lines used to do back then) I replaced it with an Airflo which literally coiled up in front of your eyes!.That got the bin treatment as at the time they hadn't extended their pricing structure as they have now!.
Airflo was a dirty word to many people for some time afterwards and their reputation wasn't exactly shinning!.
My next foray into Airflo ownership was after I'd taken up the Salmon rod and I succumbed to an Airflo DT 10 35yd fast glass intermediate.It was a gorgeous glacial green colour and sank perfectly-density compensated too- but it would coil up in front of your eyes as you fished, even after the warm water baths and stretching.Another line for holding up washing!.
As they perfected production techniques their line's improved no end in leaps and bounds!, mindst you I hade two episodes with the first DI sinkers in Salmon size, two DI6 sinking lines simply parted while playing fish.The cores were understrength and being multi filament there wasn't a continual core to provide strength and they would literally snap on casting in cold weather/water or worse still while playing a good fish.
But fear not, its not all doom and gloom on the Airflo front.They now make some of the best lines out there under their own name and for other well known brands too.Their Poly leaders are world and industry leaders.
Its not too much to accept that the odd line could well slip the qc net and some one might end up with a less than perfect line.
Being quite honest, most of my lines are Airflo now, in one guise or another and I for one am very happy with them.
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