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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 11-17-2019, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
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Skagit grain weight help

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I have an Orvis TLS PRO GUIDE trout #8 that is 9 foot long.
And want to use a Skagit line for pike not long casts say 45 to 50ft with big flies
I've used this rod for pike and Bone fish in Cuba with a 330grain Ariflo 40 plus and it's fine.
Just want to try the Skandi save all the backcasting!

Any ideas for grain weight I could use?

Any help appreciated.
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Don't waste time and money trying to Spey cast Pike flyes because they.need very heavy line to lift from water anchor that it is not fun anymore. I did TH Spey cast 1200gr line using 12ft rod and fishing range came shorter than I did achieve single hand overhead casting a 350gr line.

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Well bender you could have saved me a load of hassle thanks.
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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 11-18-2019, 06:43 AM
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You can try any of the shorter heads (OPST, Airflo Scout, etc.). These heads work well with sustained anchor style casting and the OPST is particularly good with a single-hand rod. Try a 300-325 OPST head and a 5-7ft tip. They also come in a full integrated line.
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Guys
I have an Orvis TLS PRO GUIDE trout #8 that is 9 foot long.
And want to use a Skagit line for pike not long casts say 45 to 50ft with big flies
I've used this rod for pike and Bone fish in Cuba with a 330grain Ariflo 40 plus and it's fine.
Just want to try the Skandi save all the backcasting!

Any ideas for grain weight I could use?

Any help appreciated.
First you say you want to try a Skagit line. Then you say you want to try Scandi (casting) You are speaking two different languages, not to mention lines & heads. Why not just buy a Pike/Muskie line for a single hand rod? Maybe one size over. And learn to cast those big flies without having to make repeated back casts.
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FWIW worth I use a 390 Skagit head on my SH 9 wt for overhead casting and it BOMBS out big bulky flies. Airheads and Pole Dancers are the TW fly around here for striper and it works very well.
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The Rio outbound shorts have a very stout head (as thick as a shooting head), might also be an option, maybe over lining the rod.

FWIW most people that are casting big flies for pike regularly that I know use a 10wt, the line can only get so big before you need more rod to cast the weight.

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Instead of the 40+ at 330 grains, I would just go to a shorter head, either the Rio Outbound Short #8 or the S.A Titan Taper #9. Both are 330 grains and, with the right leader, have powerful turnover. If you really want to micro Spey, yes, the OPST 325 or 350, with a tip, will work, especially if you are fishing from shore with little room. But there is a learning curve. If you’re interested in that, I would point you to some of Ed Ward’s OPST videos on YouTube.
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