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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 11-17-2019, 10:45 AM Thread Starter
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New Shamburg recently landed

I've posted on my Instagram feed and Facebook group, however for those who don't frequent those Social Media sites, I thought I'd post a few shots of the reel here.
I had placed an order with Mark about 15 months back, after trying to find a reel which matched an 11'7 #7 bamboo for weight. Those I did have were either too small and light, or too large and heavy.
I had heard about an all black Special Edition run of 10 which he was going to produce, and saw some prototypes of the reel. I love Mark's all in-the-white reels and already have two of them, but I do confess that I don't like them getting bashed/scratched up from normal use (they take a fair bit of care to maintain that original finish) and would have preferred a clear anodising or other protective coat on top of the highly polished finish. When I saw these prototypes, with the black anodising (I have a black Olson and love the look of it) and at the size and weight that would suit the intended rod better than any reel I already own, I just had to place an order for one of them.
Last week I picked it up from the courier depot and like a kid at Christmas ripped the box open. It's beautiful, and although all black instead of gleaming silver, it's still very Shamburg. The S-handle and foot is also black anodised like the reel, but also the trim, screws and posts are also blued/blackened making it a really stunning piece of kit. The spring seems stiffer than the Extra Wide 3 3/4" reel I also have to use on the bigger and heavier rods and makes a nice loud howl as you crank in.
My season is now closed but I can't wait till the new season arrives when I will have a chance to get some silver beast ripping line off this black beauty.
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Gorgeous! I think though I would have preferred the handle in silver so it stands out and says "S" handle.

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How much does it weigh empty or with backing?
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Stunning piece of kit
I'm a fan of the "all black" theme !! Although would prefer a clear andonized reel foot to match the accent hardware.

The extra wide spool is spectacular !! Fantastic sizing and fit's the 3 3/4" profile wonderfully !!

Congratulations !!!


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Gorgeous!

Mark makes a great reel and is a great guy as well.
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How much does it weigh empty or with backing?
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This weighs empty without backing or line 11.5oz. I guess you'd add another 2-3oz onto that for backing and line.
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Stunning piece of kit
I'm a fan of the "all black" theme !! Although would prefer a clear andonized reel foot to match the accent hardware.

The extra wide spool is spectacular !! Fantastic sizing and fit's the 3 3/4" profile wonderfully !!

Congratulations !!!


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Hi Mike
This is not the J-Lo model just the single width, though i do have a normal silver one of those and love it, pretty much my go-to on thd 8 weights.
Mark decided to do a double wide run after this one, but i would have always gone for this one as it was the partner for thr shorter, lighter rod.
The acents are all blued/blackened so i think the black foot goes well with the body, its not quite as dark as in these photos so the handle and foot don't really disappear into the body.

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Congrats on the new acquisition hopefully you will put it to the test next season. Is the reel a click and pawl, also single action or multiplier?
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Thanks, with luck the coming season will bring some chrome to hand. In the coming year i have trips locally to Wales and Northen England and with luck, the OP.
Mark at this point only makes G&P reels.
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Ooooo...she's a looker!
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Congratulations on a fine reel, which looks to be beautifully made.

In the original post the difficulty was mentioned of finding a suitable reel to balance an 11' 7" 7wt rod, possibly by James Reid..

It may be of interest that Hardy's made the Ocean Prince reel in two widths from 1985 until 1995 in very suitable weights to match shorter bamboo rods, both hollow and solid in the length mentioned; weighing in at 16 oz for the wider 3 3/4" model, replete with line, and 14oz line filled for the narrower version also 3 3/4".

Of particular note is that these were some of the last hand made/ bench made/ manual lathe turned reels that Hardy's made. The parts were created individually by craftmen in the 'reel shop' and assembled in small batches on the bench by one fellow fitting all the parts together in the time honoured tradition of Hardy's. CNC machines were destined to be introduced by the firm around the same time.

Indeed, if a copy of Hardy's video from 1987 can be found - The Art Of Fly Reel & Rod Manufacture ( a guided tour of the house of Hardy factory) the Ocean Prince is featured as the parts are assembled.

As a bamboo rod-maker myself, I find these fine reels compliment my rods very well and are exceedingly well made, with anodized frame, generous drag plus nickel silver components and anti reverse handle, all very stylish and understated.

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Congratulations on a fine reel, which looks to be beautifully made.

In the original post the difficulty was mentioned of finding a suitable reel to balance an 11' 7" 7wt rod, possibly by James Reid..

It may be of interest that Hardy's made the Ocean Prince reel in two widths from 1985 until 1995 in very suitable weights to match shorter bamboo rods, both hollow and solid in the length mentioned; weighing in at 16 oz for the wider 3 3/4" model, replete with line, and 14oz line filled for the narrower version also 3 3/4".

Of particular note is that these were some of the last hand made/ bench made/ manual lathe turned reels that Hardy's made. The parts were created individually by craftmen in the 'reel shop' and assembled in small batches on the bench by one fellow fitting all the parts together in the time honoured tradition of Hardy's. CNC machines were destined to be introduced by the firm around the same time.

Indeed, if a copy of Hardy's video from 1987 can be found - The Art Of Fly Reel & Rod Manufacture ( a guided tour of the house of Hardy factory) the Ocean Prince is featured as the parts are assembled.

As a bamboo rod-maker myself, I find these fine reels compliment my rods very well and are exceedingly well made, with anodized frame, generous drag plus nickel silver components and anti reverse handle, all very stylish and understated.

Malcolm
Thanks Malcolm, yes the new acquisition is a fine reel and it is very well made with an incredibly smooth finish; and also yes, it is for a James Reid, his Steelheader's Favourite, in a penta configuration. I'm sure it would have gotten away with a heavier reel like my 4" St, Mark at 13oz empty (I used this reel on it in my last trip to the Dee, Wales this summer and it was fine, albeit a bit heavy)

I have seen your previous posts of the Ocean Princes on your bamboos, and I actually recommended them to someone recently who was looking for a relatively inexpensive reel to match a long, heavy graphite spey rod.
I am sure that the Ocean Prince is a very fine reel, however in my whole fly fishing career, I've only owned or ordered 3 Hardy-esque reels - a Shamburg St. Mark, a Winston Perfect (made by Hardy) and an order for a Kell, which was never delivered when I inquired a year after ordering - since he got tired of the reel making game and decided he preferred to go gardening! I liked (or like) the ones I own(ed) but my preference is for the VH style.
Also I have also only owned one anti-reverse reel, an Islander AR4 which I used as a spey reel. Even though it was a very nice reel, I couldn't get used to the fact that line slipped when you reeled in when the drag was set correctly. A dual mode drag is more usable, and just the fact that it's probably overkill on all but the largest Atlantic or Pacific King salmon would deter me from owning another one.

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Yes Steve, all good points well taken, reel tastes are very personal. Similar to yourself, I posted as recommendation of a good reel to others who may have difficulty finding a not overly expensive reel to use on bamboo rods.

The Ocean Prince is also the only 'drag' fly reel I own and understand the point that you make regarding anti-reverse handles, although I enjoy using the reel myself.

Personally, I like making rods to suit specific vintage reels, as in the case of a hollow 10' 3pce, 7wt (trout) double handed version of the old Hardy Rogue River, on the bench now. The matching reel is a contracted 3 7/8" 1950 Perfect, one of only three which the late James Hardy made himself during his brief time in the reel shop at the age of 21.

I have long been enamoured with Hardy reels, since my regular visits to their old Pall Mall shop in London during the 1970's.

Those who also like the Vom Hofe spey style may be interested in Wayne Petrevan reels who makes single action and geared versions.

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Yes Steve, all good points well taken, reel tastes are very personal. Similar to yourself, I posted as recommendation of a good reel to others who may have difficulty finding a not overly expensive reel to use on bamboo rods.

The Ocean Prince is also the only 'drag' fly reel I own and understand the point that you make regarding anti-reverse handles, although I enjoy using the reel myself.

Personally, I like making rods to suit specific vintage reels, as in the case of a hollow 10' 3pce, 7wt (trout) double handed version of the old Hardy Rogue River, on the bench now. The matching reel is a contracted 3 7/8" 1950 Perfect, one of only three which the late James Hardy made himself during his brief time in the reel shop at the age of 21.

I have long been enamoured with Hardy reels, since my regular visits to their old Pall Mall shop in London during the 1970's.

Those who also like the Vom Hofe spey style may be interested in Wayne Petrevan reels who makes single action and geared versions.

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Malcolm,

That's an interesting rod you are making, when you say a 7wt trout rod does that mean it's a normal single handed 7wt with a long handle?
Curiously Mr. Shamburg posted on his IG feed of a 10' #7 (presumably DH rating) called a Bunker Buster which by all accounts is quite a rod for subduing large fish in small rivers or confined spaces.

For sure the reel addiction is a real disease for which the only release seems to be the purchase or acquisition of more! I also visited the Hardy PallMall shop in the early 90's before it moved/shut down and later spent a lot of time in the Farlow's shop "up the road" before it was acquired by Sportfish. I have always been a reel fanatic but it took on a new level when I came across the bench reels in Jim Williams' Just Reels site. I still get catalogues for Angling Auctions every quarter and put in a few cheeky bids on some nice reels that I don't really need but wouldn't exactly kick them out of bed. Before I got into classic styled reels, I lived for years close by in Chiswick but thought back then that an Abel was the dog's rather than these "old reels"!

I have seen the reels of Petrevan a few years back on a FB Classic Reels forum, and for sure they are real lookers as well as performers. Someone I know via email/PM on Clark's rates them higher than some other contemporary makers you'd wait many years for.

I'm pretty much at the end of my acquisition of reels phase - if you could ever reach that - apart from one which has been on the books for close to 5 years. When that's finally delivered, I'm done!

Cheers,
Steve

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When that's finally delivered, I'm done!

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I keep telling myself that, too.
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