New Simms G4Z waders versus old - Spey Pages
 9Likes
  • 1 Post By HelloMcfly
  • 1 Post By Concrete Angler
  • 1 Post By Nickels
  • 2 Post By donkeyhunter007
  • 1 Post By _WW_
  • 3 Post By Fly Away
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-05-2019, 07:04 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
kenobione's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: PNW
Posts: 126
New Simms G4Z waders versus old

Has anyone tried the new Simms G4Z waders? Any feedback compared to the old ones?

fish are friends
kenobione is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-06-2019, 12:40 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Deschutes, Eastern Washington
Posts: 687
I like the old ones. Haven’t seen the new version...
Eastside is offline  
post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-06-2019, 01:26 AM
Registered User
 
Phil Fravel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bonney lake WA + 5 Hours
Posts: 826
I called simms and asked about the differenceses. I was told they have reduced the layers of goryex in some areas of the waders.

Phil Fravel is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-06-2019, 09:35 AM
Registered User
 
HelloMcfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 44
4 layer Gore-Tex bottom instead of 5. It’s supposed to increase breathability.

I prefer 5 layer bottom for the durability.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Skol Bandit likes this.
HelloMcfly is online now  
post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-06-2019, 11:33 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: northern california
Posts: 383
My old gz leaked from day one!
Soggy crotch all day!!
I received abysmal customer service glue splattered all over my $800 waders and they still leaked.... then told my layering of clothes caused the problem... only problem is same clothes in a pair of my
Patagonia waders stay dry....hmmmmm.
Hope the new ones are better!!
So did they remove a layer of goretex and raise price of waders?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
donkeyhunter007 is online now  
post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-06-2019, 12:22 PM
The Skeena in the fall
 
jdcross's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 153
I swear by my old pair of G4Z.
Sent back twice for servicing repaired at no charge, still going strong.
Will try to keep fixing the old ones before I try something newer.
jdcross is online now  
post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-06-2019, 02:50 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: northern california
Posts: 383
My waders leaked from day one but because I had bought and stored them till the next season they tried to charge me to repair.
I was told free repair was only during the first year
Then they we’re still leaking when I recieved back....
They still leak to this day!!



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
donkeyhunter007 is online now  
post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-06-2019, 04:17 PM
Registered User
 
Concrete Angler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Quebec Laurentians, Townships, Gaspe and NY
Posts: 574
I'm not sure how many generations of G4Z's there have been, but I know I have a second-gen pair.
First gen had rounded (smaller?) exterior pockets, and the 2nd gen had them more angular.

Anyways, I spent a pretty penny on those, and they have been awesome for three seasons now zero complaints yet.

Minus one goretex layer = plus the price? Where is Simms going? I poked over to their website and found something new called the "Fish Whistle" that puzzled me until I saw more google images of it. I guess if they're gonna do beer cozy and cigar cases, why not this eh?
kenobione likes this.
Concrete Angler is online now  
post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-06-2019, 04:41 PM
Registered User
 
Nickels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 485
I don’t own the g4 but have the new g3 and will say I’m a bit disappointed in them. They feel thinner and the colour is like some kind of space suit. I like the old ones better.
kenobione likes this.
Nickels is online now  
post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-06-2019, 07:39 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: northern california
Posts: 383
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickels View Post
the colour is like some kind of space suit. I like the old ones better.

Simms and Patagonia have been doing a grey color I like to call”Great Blue Heron” grey.

Doesn’t seem smart to dress up like a major predator of the fish ?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
steelguy and kenobione like this.
donkeyhunter007 is online now  
post #11 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-09-2019, 10:52 AM
Fishes with Wolves
 
_WW_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Skagit
Posts: 336
Best waders I ever owned was a pair of Dan Bailey's Bare Bones. Bought on sale for $79. They lasted 12 years before I had to toss them because the fabric finally wore through where my jacket and arms rubbed on them.
kenobione likes this.

Catch and Release Is Not A Crime
_WW_ is offline  
post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-09-2019, 07:04 PM
Fly Away
 
Fly Away's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 90
Why the hell isn't someone making zippered, insulated vibram and/or felt-bottomed boot foot waders? Simms used to offer a G4 zippered boot foot wader; now they only offer a G3 boot foot wader that doesn't have a zipper. Zippered, boot foots are great for winter steelheading. Your feet stay warmer, and you don't have to fumble around lacing up separate boots, gravel guards, or taking off your jacket and pulling down your waders when it's freezing cold or raining. Can we start a petition to Simms?
Jim, donkeyhunter007 and oldman like this.
Fly Away is offline  
post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old Today, 01:54 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: great lakes
Posts: 16
Sitka offers a zipped bootfoot with 4 layer gortex upper and lower. I posted earlier today to see if anyone has experience with them. Same insulation level as the G3's with a Lacrosse molded boot. They are almost 2lbs lighter than the G3's.

Oldman
oldman is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Spey Pages forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Rate This Thread:



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome