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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 08-22-2019, 11:28 AM Thread Starter
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Simms Freestone Z Waders

I think my old G4's are ready to retire after 6+ years of use. While I really liked the G4's, I don't want to shell out that kind of cash unless I find a pair on closeout.

I'm considering the Simms Freestone Z waders as an alternative. I haven't found much information online, but the reviews I've read have mostly been positive. Anyone with recent experience with these waders able to share your experiences?

The other consideration is the Patagonia Rio Gallegos Zippers. Any thoughts?

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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old 08-23-2019, 11:59 AM
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I use different waders, also the G4 Zip and Rio Gallegos Zip. The G4 is the first for many years in use, the Rio Gallegos is the third one (bought two and got one replacement after leaking in very short time).
The G4 is a “Panzer” compared to the Rio Gallegos, both, in weight and durability. The breathability of the G4/GoreTex is much better, compared to the Patagonia, although the G4 is thicker in material. My last Patagonia is a backup now.

Of course you will get different answers. And of course any product can fail. In fact a brand new G3 failed from the beginning after one I had for ten years.

But asked which one I would prefer, Rio Gallegos or Simms Freestone, I would take the Freestone without any doubt.
I use the Freestone as a hip wader for a longer time now. It was meant to be a warm weather and low water option. In fact I use it very often now. It’s really well made and one can see the quality. It made around 150 fishing days now without leaking. My Patagonia’s made 40-50 days.
Breathability of the Freestone suffers, compared to the G4 or G3 GoreTex waders. In this aspect it’s comparable to the Patagonia or any other wader, using not GoreTex.
Another BUT:
There was a model change for the Freestone this year. Mine, which I am referring to, is the former model, two years old. Check the fit. At least mine is very different to the G3 and G4. I had to go down one size.

Good luck !

Time is running... A little bit of work, a little bit married, fishing, hunting... What else?
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post #3 of 4 (permalink) Old 08-23-2019, 01:00 PM
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Have you considered sending your G4's to Simms for a factory tune up?

This is from their website.

"Wader Repairs Beyond The First Year - $60
If your wader is in need of repair after your first year, Simms charges a flat fee of $60 for evaluation, repair, testing of repairs and return shipping back to you. To initiate a repair, please contact the authorized Simms Dealer where your wader was purchased, or you may use the Simms Online Repair Center and return the waders to Simms.
Typical turnaround time for any repair or warranty claim is approximately 3 weeks, not including transit time to and from Simms."

Worth a try if yours are in decent shape.
I sent my 10 year old G4's in this year.
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post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old 08-25-2019, 11:52 AM
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I had a pair of Patagonia waders. The zipper area around the crotch always leaked. Sent them in for repair and still could not fix it.
I believe this was the first generation of those waders and they might have fixed the problem since.
I do like Simms G4’s, thicker fabric makes it a good wader if you’re hiking in through brush etc...
I would get a pair of G3’s for spring/summer, maybe a bit better breathability in those.
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