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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-04-2019, 04:19 PM Thread Starter
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R.B. Meiser Fly Rods New Two handed Reel Seats

The shop has just developed a new series of two handed reel seats that will not only allow the acceptance of both vintage and conventional reel seat legs ... But they will also allow up to 4 inches of seat travel while using either an up or down-locking reel configuration. Dual lock nuts are directionally thread opposing, so they will 100% lock-in the reel legs anywhere within their travel ... Regardless of their leg length.
All of these elements will assist in achieving better swing balance, while using non-conforming legs, and heavier weighted frames typical of many vintage reels ... And will also allow the same advantages for the lighter weight contemporary reels preferred by many two handed anglers.
Bottom line <> These reel seats will let the angler cinch-up a heavier, longer legged vintage Perfect ... Or a lighter, conventional legged Farlex on the same reel seat/rod marriage, and still be allowed reel placement adjustments (on the reel seat barrel) to achieve an ideal swing balance.

We have more details of the reel seats on my Robert Meiser Facebook page

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Let me be the first of I'm sure many others to say that is a neat idea!

Is the material aluminum?
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Hello Salmon Cane,

Yes the Skeleton is milled from aircraft grade Aluminum bar and tube stock <> Hard anodized to a Titanium Gunsmoke color.

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Nice work Robert! You just filled a void that many were asking for!

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You know Bob, this ingenious development doesn't surprise me in the least.
The amount of brain power within that shop of yours makes my head hurt ...

Looks beautiful and worthy of having a place on one of those rods you gents craft


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Epic design! This will be a game-changer.

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new reel seats

Like most brilliant ideas, it is really quite simple, and one wonders why no one thought of it before now. As if we needed another reason to shop for a new Meiser!

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Hardy's had a version, albeit on their spinning rods. Two screw fittings which could be slid up or down the handle and tighten on any length reel foot. Often the rod would be coupled with a Silex reel which would be positioned lower down the handle, similar to double handed fly rods today. The spinning artificial 'bait' (Devon Minnow, Phantom Minnow etc.) would be cast out, direct from the reel and 'swung', spinning in the current as it went.

This from their 1937 catalogue.

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Those look fantastic, thank you! Are you able to retrofit your existing rods if sent in?
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Hardy's had a version, albeit on their spinning rods. Two screw fittings which could be slid up or down the handle and tighten on any length reel foot. Often the rod would be coupled with a Silex reel which would be positioned lower down the handle, similar to double handed fly rods today. The spinning artificial 'bait' (Devon Minnow, Phantom Minnow etc.) would be cast out, direct from the reel and 'swung', spinning in the current as it went.

This from their 1937 catalogue.

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Hello Malcom,

Our concept is not totally original (very few things are)

I have seen several other versions of reel seats on a similar theme over the years from many manufacturers including Hardy, Berkley, Bruce and Walker, Shimano, REC etc.

The assembly you have shown here is an excellent example of a similar concept, and likens to a typical “Tennessee”, or Center Pin sliding ring assembly.

This assembly does work fine ... But unfortunately its effectiveness can be somewhat short lived; as the cork grip material that the assemblies slide on will compress over time, and disallow this type of leg locking assembly to function.

This is one of the issues I wanted to address, and improve upon.

There are also a number of other issues that we hoped too address that would improve the concept of this theme.

These issues include creating sliding hood slot sizes to universly fit the inherent variations of both conforming and non-conforming leg thickness, and widths ... As well as their variations in leg length.

This has always been the toughest nut to crack in regards to universal leg fit.

The overall throw of the barrel is also infinitely adjustable, as the center core (between the the opposing threaded sections) can be adjusted in length to create a desired overall barrel length ...

... And the material used for the center core is incredibly durable, non-slip, cushioned, and is milled slightly proud of the threaded barrel ODs. This along with opposing directional lock nuts are all designed to assist in securing the reel legs to eliminate side twisting.

In truth .. I do not know if any, or all of these mentioned elements in total are unique or original to this reel seat <> Maybe so ... Maybe not ...

... What I do know is that this reel seat is new to our selection of reel seats, they work <> And we will be offering them to our clients (as another option) if they choose to use them.

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Those look fantastic, thank you! Are you able to retrofit your existing rods if sent in?
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Yes this could be done <> We would need to discuss the details.

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Thanks for your reply Bob,

Yes, there have been many and varied reel seat ideas over the years, yours I am sure works very well, it certainly is well made.

Regarding the Hardy 'screw grip' as they called it, I have a number of rods from the 60's so fitted and they still hold a reel securely, plus I have made a bamboo double handed fly rod using one. The main issue with them is that they were designed to be used with 'ribbed foot' Hardy reels as the inside of the hood is also ribbed so it screws onto the ribs of the foot to hold it. With shorter and modern smooth reel feet they cannot grip so tend to slide and loosen.

Coming from and being familiar with sliding rings from the UK, cork compression is not usually a problem in larger rods, unless they are pushed on tight, and then usually force an indent of the reel foot into the cork. I think I read that J Reid has a penchant for (a) sliding ring. On my next rod I mean to use one, plus a housed pocket, so we will see.

In any case good luck with your seats, they look to be just the ticket.

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Would there be a possibility for replacing the center core material with a custom turned stabilized wood if one wished.
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Would there be a possibility for replacing the center core material with a custom turned stabilized wood if one wished.
I was wondering this too. From the picture it does look like two pieces, which begs the question how large a spacing to use (or can be gotten away with) in a given case. This would be great on my 9+ wt rods where I switch sometimes between a heavy Saracione and a Danielsson that weighs about 4-5 oz less. Maybe I could use less lead core on the latter by shifting it back. But probably it will be most useful in fine tuning the balance point on a set up that is already close to balanced, and accommodating very different sized feet.

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