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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-10-2019, 08:29 AM Thread Starter
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I am using a 12 1/2' Redington Duelly 6wt. With a connect core running line and an Airflow Rage 420gr. Looped to that is a 5' T8 sinking tip and a short straight tippet about 3-4 ' either 3x or 10lb depending on what I'm fishing for (trout or stripers). I am doing a good double spey and snap T and am working on my snake roll and circle C casts. It is going well and seems to be well balanced but I have some difficulty getting the leader to "roll out"...do you think its my technique or is there another leader set up that may be better?
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That line should not have problem to turn the fly straight. Perhaps line loop straightens so powerful that it overshoots the line tip and bounce fly back before it lands to water?

If line loop does not run to the end you should try braking shooting line in towards the end and it should speed up line loop run. Usually when stripping line making first loop of shooting line biggest is enough to increase water drag in the end of line shoot. Also when following loops of SL are smaller they don't tangle with longer when line shoots out.

Another fix is to release shooting line later to speed up line loop run but this method I really don't recommend because releasing early enough has big effect for longer casts and for me it was very difficult to learn after too late release "had built to my muscle memory".

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Thanks for that...it helps.
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Thanks for that...it helps.

I hope it does! I am not skagit line expert because I haven't learn to cast them as good as scandi and I think it is because blunt line heads require better casting force control I can do.

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I would be inclined to replace that 5' of T-8 with a sinking poly leader if down is where you want to go or even up to a tapered leader. The taper of either would help promote turnover.

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Stupid question...what is the difference between a poly leader and a versileader...is it just the manufacturer?
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Yep, different manufacturers. It does make a difference however. If I remember correctly, generally Rio's are heavier (grains) and they have less of a selection to choose from. Airflo's polyleaders come in many different core # tests, weights, and lengths, ... trout, light scandi, scandi, spey, etc, etc. You have to try to find a good of match the polyleader weight/length to the weight/diameter of line/head tip to find what works for you. In my experience and skill level, sinking polyleaders cast much easier, turn over, and lay out much more like a normal fly line, than T-material... easier for me to control. Someone else may have experience with your particular rod/line combo and have some suggestions.

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The best explanation I have seen.


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Awesome...Thanks for that video.
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