Tapered Leaders for 15’ Spey rod - Spey Pages
 3Likes
  • 1 Post By SpeySpaz
  • 1 Post By JDJones
  • 1 Post By Yooper-Fly
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 09:55 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Yooper-Fly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Upper Peninsula Michigan
Posts: 951
Tapered Leaders for 15’ Spey rod

So, I’m just loving tapered leaders and small flies from my 15’ rod! I was up on the St Mary’s 2 new that ago, I was the only one there! And I saw Atlantic’s feeding like trout on a massive caddis hatch!! So spectacular!!!

Anyway, curious if anyone has messed with tapered leaders for skating dries and what formula helps turnover the best? As a note, I have 50lb test down to 12lb. I’m just not sure what would be a a good length for leader and how much of the big stuff vs lighter tippet.

My thoughts were that the 50lb to 20lb would make up the majority of the leader, and the 15lb-12lb would just be like 3 ft? I’m trying to keep the leader the length of the rod I think??

Anyway, any help much appreciated......thanks

You make known to me the path of life;
in your presence there is fullness of joy;
at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.

PSALM 16:11
Yooper-Fly is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 10:53 AM
Scandit sublima virtus
 
SpeySpaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Cowlamasqually
Posts: 2,214
I use long leaders >15' almost exclusively and have found that heavy leader butts are too stiff for my taste, I prefer more supple leaders.
Tied my own for years, usually starting with a 25# butt and a formula similar to a Schweitzer 4-piece. 60/20/20.

These days I'm using 15' Airflo or SA. Airflo's my favorite. Usually with 4' of tippet or so.
raspberry-patch likes this.

Captain of the Jameson Godawful casting team
Member-Mullockers Anonymous
Sportkilt Sponsored Middle Aged "athlete"
SpeySpaz is offline  
post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 11:05 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Yooper-Fly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Upper Peninsula Michigan
Posts: 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeySpaz View Post
I use long leaders >15' almost exclusively and have found that heavy leader butts are too stiff for my taste, I prefer more supple leaders.
Tied my own for years, usually starting with a 25# butt and a formula similar to a Schweitzer 4-piece. 60/20/20.

These days I'm using 15' Airflo or SA. Airflo's my favorite. Usually with 4' of tippet or so.
Thanks, I will look into that

You make known to me the path of life;
in your presence there is fullness of joy;
at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.

PSALM 16:11
Yooper-Fly is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 11:14 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Yooper-Fly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Upper Peninsula Michigan
Posts: 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeySpaz View Post
I use long leaders >15' almost exclusively and have found that heavy leader butts are too stiff for my taste, I prefer more supple leaders.
Tied my own for years, usually starting with a 25# butt and a formula similar to a Schweitzer 4-piece. 60/20/20.

These days I'm using 15' Airflo or SA. Airflo's my favorite. Usually with 4' of tippet or so.
You are talking about poly leaders correct?? I just ordered a 15’ clear float, and I also have 2 10’ polys in different sink rates. So with my 38’ head I should be covered.

Any disadvantages to using poly leaders vs tapered leaders?

You make known to me the path of life;
in your presence there is fullness of joy;
at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.

PSALM 16:11
Yooper-Fly is offline  
post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 01:02 PM
JD
 
JDJones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Rogue River State of Jefferson
Posts: 3,571
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yooper-Fly View Post
You are talking about poly leaders correct?? I just ordered a 15 clear float, and I also have 2 10 polys in different sink rates. So with my 38 head I should be covered.

Any disadvantages to using poly leaders vs tapered leaders?
I do not recommend poly leaders for riffle hitched flies as they sometimes dive & roll if the tension is not just right. That can put a twist in a poly leader & ruin it.
Because of that, I gave up on poly leaders & went back to hand tied mono leaders.
SLSS likes this.

I fish because the voices inside my head tell me to.
JDJones is offline  
post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 01:53 PM
Registered User
 
barnz3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 320
Not to highjack, but how long ago was this where you were fishing the Soo? How's the water, with all the gates open? I'm assuming this was inside the berm?

Would love to make it up that way really soon if conditions are at all fishable--even inside the berm.

On an aside, I really enjoy floating/intermediate Airflo polyleaders as well.

Thanks!

Ryan
barnz3 is offline  
post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 03:19 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Yooper-Fly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Upper Peninsula Michigan
Posts: 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by barnz3 View Post
Not to highjack, but how long ago was this where you were fishing the Soo? How's the water, with all the gates open? I'm assuming this was inside the berm?

Would love to make it up that way really soon if conditions are at all fishable--even inside the berm.

On an aside, I really enjoy floating/intermediate Airflo polyleaders as well.

Thanks!

Ryan
Just 2 nights ago. I love 45mins exactly from international bridge. Yes, inside the berm. I go to the wall and cast both sides though, just to see! But the water is probably going to be very high for the next several years!! You know, when the water got super low for us, everyone called it global warming. Now that the water is back up, it’s climate change!! Who knows, but it’s going to be high for awhile. Which isn’t bad because the fresh Atlantic’s push into the small side, especially during the big big hatches
barnz3 likes this.

You make known to me the path of life;
in your presence there is fullness of joy;
at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.

PSALM 16:11
Yooper-Fly is offline  
post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 04:54 PM
Registered User
 
barnz3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 320
Cool, thanks for the reply.

I live about 6 hours away, but may make it up in the next few weeks just to poke around.
barnz3 is offline  
post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 07-09-2019, 08:52 PM
Administrator
 
GR8LAKES FLYER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: All Rivers flowing into Georgian Bay
Posts: 16,596
I usually do a 50/30/20 formula now days for small flies or skating.
This formula lets me use a lighter butt for softer presentations.
For heavier lines (8/9/10) I start with 25lb, then 15lb and down to 10lb or 8lb.
For lighter lines (6/7/8), I start with 20lb, then 12lb and down to 10lb or 8lb.
These leaders range from 14ft to 22ft, all are made from Maxima Ultra Green.


Mike

Have you Swung a Spey Fly today ??
GR8LAKES FLYER is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Spey Pages forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Rate This Thread:



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome