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Boss 9/10: Line Review

Hello all,

On Friday, I received my Boss 9/10 from Gene Oswald. Because of a family reunion, I was not able to get out and cast it until yesterday morning, but when i finally could try it I really did. I met my friend Tom out on the river and he and I tried the 9/10 Boss on 6 different Bruce and Walker Rods, and these were:

Powerlite 15' 7/8/9
Powerlite 16' 8/9
Walker 15'6" 9/10
Walker 16'6" 9/10
Walker 17'6" 9/10
Norway 16' 9/10

Before getting into rod-by-rod specifics,I would like to give some general observations.. We measure this line at 68' in length, and with an out-of-the-box weight of 51 grams (787grains). The butt section of thye line is noticeably thinner than that of the Nextcast FF 70. The head is pink, technically "salmon", but it is pink to my eye.

*A quick note on Nextcast: I have spent thousands of dollars on spey lines since I started spey fishing over 20 years ago, I think I have spent thousands on lines 55' and longer. I have a good friend who is in the same boat, and in all these purchases and tests, never have I found a line that is as good as the Nextcast. I have heard great things about other lines only to try them and again find a line not as good to cast a Fall Favorite or Winter Authority. My fly tying room has a pile of "long lines" collecting dust because they fell short. So I was not real sure how the boss would be able to compare.

I found the Boss to be the best long rod line I have cast on some of the rods and about equal to the Nextcast FF on others. I did not mind the line's color at all, once I was casting it, in fact I really liked the way it looks. This line is noticeably long while casting it and when moving from a Nextcast FF 70, there is an adjustment to be made to get the anchor placed correctly. Once that adjustment is made, this line really sails, but not equally on all rods. Here is a quick run down of our impressions.

Powerlite 15' 7/8/9: The Boss worked well, but felt long on this rod. I would prefer a FF/WA 9/10 55', the FF 70 8/9 also works well, so I would bet (without knowing) that the Boss 8/9 would be a great fit as well.

Powerlite 16' 8/9: This rod with a FF 70 8/9 is my favorite casting rod/ line combo. I think Tom would agree (or he would take the Walker 16'6"/ FF 9/10). However, The Boss 9/10 felt just as good to cast (even though it was 50 grains heavier, and 6' longer), in terms of anchor placement and loading, and the cast travelled noticeably further (I mean ridiculously far). For this rod the Boss is a notable upgrade. Which was a big surprise.

Walker 15'6" 9/10: This rod loved the line. It took a bit of a casting transition to pick up the long line with a slightly shorter rod, but once I adjusted and the anchor was placed correctly, the sparks flew, and the rod was able really deliver long smooth casts. really good combo.

Walker 16'6" 9/10: Line cast very well and delivered the fly beautifully, but we felt that the Nextcast FF 70 9/10 and the Boss were pretty equal on this rod, not the same but pretty equal. This a fantastic rod that seems unique among all spey rods and both lines cast great, but very different characteristics. One loads better, the other flies better.

Walker 17'6" 9/10: The Boss was awesome on this rod, how could it not be? The extra length is great on this rod and it loads it up really well. Also, the thinner diameter of this line really allows it to fly further before the but starts dropping.

Norway 16' 9/10:I cast further with the Boss on this rod that I have with any other line, but I like the way the FF 70 8/9 feels better. this rod is lighter than most people would expect. Maybe the Boss 8/9 would be the ideal fit, I haven't been able to try it yet.

I hope this was a useful review for you long line guys. Tom and I are not tournament casters. Tom is an excellent caster and I feel that I am pretty good too, but there are better, more knowledgeable guys out there. We work hard and practice, always looking to improve our technique. We are dedicated students to this sport.

Quick conclusion: If you like cast long bellies with 15'+ rods, this line is worth the money and you will be missing out if you don't try one out. I now have a line that fits three of my favorite rods and rocks. Pretty awesome!

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post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old 07-08-2019, 12:34 PM
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Thanks for posting.
Will be giving my 9/10 a try later this week.
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LBM,

Excellent review and great info to add to the database. I have not tried my Boss Long 9/10 with all of the rods that you have but did try it on the 16' 8/9 PL. You aren't kidding about "ridiculously far". I sat and watched a friend of mine, who is a fantastic caster, throw bomb after bomb with that combo and they not only went "ridiculously far" but the turnover at more than 150' (measured) was incredibly consistent. The line just popped at the end. No squiggles with the last 10' landing in a heap. He did the same thing with the 15'6" Walker as well. Hoping to get an 8/9 soon and conduct further experiments. Please keep us updated on any additional findings.

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Hello Tom,

Thank you. We also measured a cast with the 16’ 8/9 at 150+’ (based on line through the guides). I can promise the no squiggles thing. No trying brag up our casting, but to verify that what Tom says is true. The 16’ 8/9 is indeed capable of this cast with this line.

We didn’t measure a cast on the other rods, but really wanted to see what the 16’ 8/9 could do when really opened up with the Boss.

I too really can’t wait to try the Boss 8/9.

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Hmmm. I just acquired a 16' 8/9 PL. Nice to hear there's a stand-out line for it. I was going to use my CND GPS 8/9 or 9/10 on it for tips but the BOSS line sounds perfect for dryline work...

Anyone try the old "Ghillie" model of the 16' 9/10 3 piece PL with any Boss line? it's a forgotten rod of mine needing a better line match than the current CND GPS 10/11...

What running line you gents using? Varivas?

Will they handle light poly tips?

Lastly, are these BOSS lines PU or PVC?

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Varivas.

Tom has the 16 9/10 Powerlite. We can give it a try this coming weekend.

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Just went and checked out the boss website. Can’t find anything on there that tells you the grain weights of the lines. Anyone know the weight of the 8/9 boss long?
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Hello Nickels,

Our BOSS 8/9 is 65’ long and approximately 720- 730 grains. Our 9/10 is 68’ and 780-800 grains. The lines come off the water very easily and actually feel lighter (due to design) than comparable lines of the same weight.

Thanks for the heads-up, I will add the weights to our website.

I hope this helps.

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Good review. Sounds like great lines.

Gene -
I know the website mentions cutting the lines back to the desired length and weight. If I'm fishing a 15' 6/7/8 that likes a long line in the 575-675 grain window, is that possible with a BOSS Line without getting to think on the back end from the cutting?
Are these casting lines or FISHING lines? That's not a loaded question. I'm just trying to figure out intent and versatility. My friends accuse me of being a caster and hitting the far bank for no other purpose than fun. But I'd like to think I'm fishing

I'm always open to trying new long lines. My current favorites are Gaelforce and Deltas. These are great fishing lines that can throw tips (floating through heavy sink) up to a 100gr. or so with little effort.
Beautiful casts. Little stripping. For what it's worth, I had a WA70. I just couldn't get it to dance. Seemed very clunky in comparison to my others. Quirks of the sport -- thus all the different line manufacturers. We are truly blessed in our sport to have great rod and line builders -- hard to think of a better time to be in our sport -- minus the decline of the actual fish in most of our river systems.
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Hello Read1t48,

Thank you for your inquiry regarding our BOSS lines and congratulations on hitting that far bank, you certainly are doing something right!

The line cutting instructions on our website are only for our BOSS Competition Head. These heads are designed to be cut for length and weight to suit a caster’s preferences for competitions. Our BOSS 9/10 and 8/9 are fishing lines and do not need to be cut, they are “good to go” right off the spool. Our 8/9 line is 65’ and approximately 730 grains. This may be a bit heavy for your rod however our lines feel lighter than they weigh so it may be a very nice match. I have used our 8/9 on a few 15’ 7/8 rods and it performed very well.

I hope this helps and thank you for your interest.

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Gene any chance of them being up at Ben Howard on Sunday for the monthly get together?

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I will try my best. I think Hiro will be there and he has the 9/10.
I have a few other commitments but I’ll try to see if I can break free.

Thanks very much

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Hello Nickels,

Our BOSS 8/9 is 65’ long and approximately 720- 730 grains. Our 9/10 is 68’ and 780-800 grains. The lines come off the water very easily and actually feel lighter (due to design) than comparable lines of the same weight.

Thanks for the heads-up, I will add the weights to our website.

I hope this helps.

Best Regards,

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Thanks gene!
Any chance you have had a chance to try the line on a 14’6 9/10 walker?
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Nickels,

I have a few days' casting with the BOSS 8/9 on the Walker 14'6". It is one of the best lines I've put on it yet. Everything everyone is saying is true--comes off the water easily, feels light but still communicative enough to get a good cast off, and great turnover.

One thing that I noticed immediately is the really nice "hang" in the air. When I don't get the loop trajectory inclining just right, which is a lot of the time with long lines, it still stays airborne for way longer than it should. And turns over every time no matter how bad I've managed to muck it up. Will be a great fishing line for this reason.
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Nickels,

I have a few days' casting with the BOSS 8/9 on the Walker 14'6". It is one of the best lines I've put on it yet. Everything everyone is saying is true--comes off the water easily, feels light but still communicative enough to get a good cast off, and great turnover.

One thing that I noticed immediately is the really nice "hang" in the air. When I don't get the loop trajectory inclining just right, which is a lot of the time with long lines, it still stays airborne for way longer than it should. And turns over every time no matter how bad I've managed to muck it up. Will be a great fishing line for this reason.
Thanks for the info!!
Guess I’m going to have to try one out!
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