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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-10-2019, 12:01 PM Thread Starter
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Running line required

Being new at this I have a question. I am getting a Rio Skagit Short Max 275gr head.
What type of running line do I need? Does a Lazar #25 work? Anything else?
And then either a floating or sinking tip like from OPST?
Please let me know how to set this up.
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-10-2019, 01:44 PM
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The Lazer line would work fine. However if your like me, I do not like mono for a running line. Especially in the cold weather. My fingers have a hard time griping it. If you would like to try mono before you pop for Lazer I would pick up some 40lb Big Game, It's cheap and easy to get and will approximate lazer line.
For other options there are some choices. There are some other mono options as well as coated lines such as the Airflo Ridge or Rio(whatever it's called). I prefer the coated lines for feel and grip, especially the Ridge line. I do have a Scientific Anglers mono running line that came with a whole kit. It doesn't seem to have any memory and is fairly thick to be able to hold on to it but I have not tested it yet.

If your up for a road trip I would visit Spey Nation. You will likely be able to try a few lines and maybe find some deals.


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I agree with erie, buy some Berkeley before spending the money for OPST. Mono running lines aren't for everyone. 30-40# is not too bad to handle, but anything less than that, I prefer a coated line.
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I'll second eriefisher's thoughts on mono shooting lines. I'm currently using the shooting line section salvaged from a Switch Chucker (originally an integrated line). Word to the wise... don't leave any valuable fishing gear near a bored, labrador retriever. This salvaged shooting line is thicker than mono.
It does three things mono doesn't didn't well for me-
1. Pinches against the cork in cold weather.
2. Makes mending a heavy head easier.
3. Adds just enough drag in the guides to aid turnover.
The only thing it did worse-
It doesn't shoot as far as mono, but it's less than 10' difference.
The pros outweighed the cons for my fishing. I'll be replacing it with something similar when it wears out.
The only reason I bring it up here, is maybe you already have something that would work.
As far as tips for a 275 grain skagit max short, assuming you're rod is 11'-12' long trout spey, I would try either 7'-10' polyleaders or maybe even a light (T8) MOW tip. The closest thing I have to this head is a 305 grain Rio Trout Spey head, but it doesn't like T8 for me. I prefer 10' polyleaders.
Good luck!
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There are other choices for mono running lines, Frog Hair sells four different tests of line for $13.95 per 40 meters. I like it just as well as OPST LazerLine. Also, Miracle Braid by Airflo is my goto for all seasons except winter. Also, I wouldn't spend the money on OPST sink tips until you tried some stuff out. You can get bulk T-material from several sources. Or opt for the Airflo porduct that comes with 20' of material looped on both ends. So you get two leaders of whatever length you want.
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post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-12-2019, 08:13 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you guys, I understand the choices for a monofilament type running line. How about the plastic type running lines, like a #20 made by Airflo or Rio? Are they easier to handle and don't they curl less than mono?
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You could always go with a Rio grip shooter in 25 pound you get the best of both worlds it has 15 feet of handling line and 90 ft of straight mono behind it , I would certainly go with mono with a 275 gr trout line .
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I’ve have used mono during all 4 seasons on SH rod with a fast sinking shooting head. Past 5 years Skagit with sink tip. Yes mono is a pain, both traditional overhead and Spey casting. But, l find it efficient in allowing one to get down quick and enables distance by compensating for my lack of of casting skill when the far bank calls. Back in the day it was 20# or 30# spin casting mono. Then Amnesia came out. Slick Shooter made round mono flat. Now the very expensive Varivas, which is supposed to float but does not. Then some clever guys recommended very economical Trilene Big Game. But they all will tangle, curl and kink. Some times it your style, the current, simply the repetitive underhand roll, whatever. Big Game is certainly the way to go in the beginning and maybe the best for excellent casters.

Significant improvement for me is realized by strongly stretching your line & mono prior to casting by pulling against a tree or car. I do not find stretching segments by hand or the rubber pad treatment effective. Also, full stretch method (due to my poor casting) needs repeating periodically during the day of fishing as necessary. There is a video of Ed Ward dangling and then “twirling” his reel between his two hands to eliminate built-uptwist. I have not tried this very much as I seem to have trouble determining which way to spin. But, the video does show this works when done correctly. My advice is to stretch your mono regardless of the brand you like.
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